Ah she works at Three-H-Furniture- ... And she's ah customer-service. ... So she gets people, she gets to talk to people from in the States 'cause one of the main customers are the United-States and so she talks to a whole bunch of people from there and she gets a couple people from Canada and she gets all the people who complain.

Like, he worked for this company that installed elevators and- and-stuff. And ah- and so they- they had a falling out and- and so he went back to s-- to the States- to Cleveland and ah mother Ethan moved up here where she looked after ah- her ah grandma McCoy and- and grandpa.

Speaker: Ah no, no. Ah he owns a big place down in ah- in- Interviewer: Ottawa. Speaker: No no, in the States. Interviewer: Oh okay.

Ah um we had gone out earlier in high-school and then um the summer that I was going off to university, we got back together and he- he went to school in the States on a hockey scholarship.

Speaker: So we plan two events in the community, the Festival's committee. One is the carnival and then the other is homecoming weekend, July-first weekend. Interviewer: And what happens then? Speaker: Um so we- we're starting off- we have a comedian, a local girl that's a comedian that lives in the States. She's starting ah Wednesday night. Then we have a- oh, Tuesday night we have a kid's character thing like Dora.

They have- they're the ones that has the- well it used to be Grants, um, it's like a forest place, forest, forestry I-guess. ... But now it's some company from the States has bought it so yeah that's pretty much all there is in Englehart.

Like it's not fun shoveling know all the time, you-know, but I- I can't see myself living in the States where the have tornadoes and devastations like they do, so I'm thinking living in the North is- hey, we don't get what they get.

Interviewer: Wow, Yellow-Stone. Speaker: Yup. Interviewer: Where's about is that (laughs)? Speaker: That's in the States in the-

You-know, as an example, um, maybe you don't remember them. Do you remember the old um billboards that used to be in the States, and I- Burma-Shave or-something where they'd have part of the- part of the advertisement here and then another half part way down the road and another one part way down the road.

Last year we went down into the States for our honeymoon-

Interviewer: Do you think it's becoming more and more similar to each other because of the media or do you think it's diverging because of the media? Speaker: I'd have to say it's converging. Because a lot of our media in Canada is coming from the States, and if you think of what the audience would be it's- say if American media is getting to Canadians then that's getting to their entire population and our entire population at the same time and we're all watching the same shows.

Speaker: Yeah. We were overseas a lot. And we were down the sta-- ah, pretty well around Canada and the States and we were enough- Interviewer: So why do you love- why do you love here? Speaker: It's peaceful. We have to look after our cat too (laughs).

So, you go finishing when you want, you can go hunting. The only thing that's ah, sucks about hunting is ah, all the rules 'cause people from down south and the States ruin it for us. People from down south.

So there's teams- well, there's teams from like Toronto and Ottawa, so I think there were scouts there from all schools and the States. They probably just liked one of the games I played in.

'Cause a lot of the time right now, a lot of the students don't even get their education here for med school. A lot of them go to say McGill or-things-like-that, Quebec or even go to the States so it's going to be more of an incentive program. I think right now the signing bonus here- to stay here is- all doctors get a signing bonus incentive. Thing is here, only here is thirty-thousand-dollars.

Well, good thing, it's not the States, 'cause then there wouldn't be no taxes on it 'cause rich people don't get taxed in the States.

Well I don't know what the laws are like in the States, but here I can't take any money um, for anything that goes on on my property without it affecting the amount of risk that my insurance company takes and-

Tom and I have travelled a good bit. We've been, you-know, out to the West-Coast and- and different places. We've been down through the States, San-Fransisco, he has a sister living in Boston, down-

Interviewer: Have either of you been outside of Ontario? Speaker: Mm-hm. Interviewer: And where would it be? Speaker: Well we've been to Sweden. Been to Sweden a couple of times and we've done quite a few holidays. We've been to the States a number of times and ah been to the Caribbean- in fact we just came back from a- a cruise- what, about a week ago- a month ago-

Um, I would probably like to travel like, a bit more around the States, maybe like South-America, just to see like, maybe like Rio, stuff-like-that. Maybe Australia, probably definitely Ja-- like Japan and China, because I've heard a lot about that, and it's kind of futuristic there, and that's really it, and Europe of course.