Well I went on and got my first class certificate. A lot of them at that time are just getting your second class. And I went ah another two years. It was then ah and got my first class and I took the matric as well as the teacher's. And so ah I- I took everything they asks me to take because I thought someday I might want this and I might want that and I didn't know just what I was going to do altogether and so I took ah junior and senior matric and junior and senior teacher's- normal so-

I attended Queen-Victoria-School. And I- and I to-- and then ah Queen-Victoria-High-School was above Queen-Victoria's- ah Public-School, at that time, and then I went to Queen-Victoria-High-School and then I went ah- I got my ah- ah matric and ah- and seni-- ah junior and senior matric and-so-on there and then ah I went to faculty in Toronto and came back and started to Queen-Victoria-School to teach.

... I didn't do the studying I would have done if I'd been at home so I failed one subject, didn't get my senior- matric 'cause back then it was senior-matriculation set by the province. Everybody- you could only graduate if you wrote that grade-thirteen exam and passed. And it wasn't at the school, it was down at the U-of-T as a matter of fact, in some great big gymnasium. Miles and miles of desks.

I still like (inc) and can still smell them. The smell in that subway. Yeah. But I went to Oakwood-Collegiate and got my senior matriculation and um- what else?

Speaker: And out of the class that I was in, at Runnymede, there would be about twenty of us and only two went to univesity. Very few people went to university. Interviewer: And very few girls, right? Speaker: Well yeah. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: And ah so it was strictly- junior matric was it. And you needed junior matric to get a decent job, but senior matric, as I say, the only people that ever got one were those who're planning to go on to university.

... the family needed um some assistance and right after that, I joined the Air-Force. And I know when I joined the Air-Force, fortunately it was getting to the point that they're getting a little hard-up for air crew. At one time, you had to have your senior-matric, or high-school graduation, to go be a pilot or navigator. And at this time, luckily, they ah gave me an aptitude-test and I passed that and they sent me to special schooling for about three months, I guess it was, to learn all the mathematics and everything else ...