Speaker: And then the building that was built up, you-know built up to a- a place, just slanted like that. ... They call that a lean-to. ... There was lots of farm buildings had a lean-to you-know? ... Yeah there was no- there was no upstairs in them, or loft or how they like to call it.

Interviewer: You're going to be camping in the winter? Speaker: Yeah. Without a tent. ... Or sleeping bags. Interviewer: What are you going to do? Speaker: We- we're supposed to take a ah survival kit with an emergency blanket in it and just sleep under lean-tos and-things-like-this. Interviewer: That you're going to build yourselves? Speaker: Yeah.

And that whole area from Farley down was woods, 'cause we used to hunt ah rabbits and-everything in there. And it became what we called at that time Hobo-Junction because the hobos used to have a couple o' lean-tos in there and they never bothered anybody, they came around to d-- houses and to see if there work to be done ah chopping wood for anybody or for a meal or-something-like-that ... But going back to ah to the lean-tos and-so-on, when we used to go hunting we'd always ah drop off a rabbit to them and they would skin it and make rabbit-stew and that rabbit-stew would last them for- for a week down there. ... But they had had their little campfires back in- just on- just enough underneath to keep the back end of the lean-tos which they would have ah boughs on and-so-on.

... I said to him, I said, "What are- what are those?" And he explained to me that ah they were the hobo lean-tos, they were hobo-houses.

And then one other time, dad was working up at- well we were both working up at- at my cousins barn and there was a- a lean to in the south side and so we were- it must have been in the- in the- well it was probably in the fall.

Is the, ah- the log work that our forefathers would hew out of the- out of, ah, the bush in order to build their shelter, ah- to build their house. Ah, in many cases the first- the first winter was sometimes just, ah, made- or the shelter was made out of a lean-to and, ah, how they survived some of those winters I'll never know. And I know, ah, one of- one of- one of my, ah, ah, grand- grandfathers remembers, ah, living a whole winter in a dug out area and basically it was just one little hole to get in and out of.