Speaker: ...the people that wore the rock t-shirts and had their long hair and- what used to be the hippies in the se-- ah late sixties, early seventies became the "techers" up here but they're "rockers" down south. So it was the guys that used to bang their heads to listen and the- like the eighties rock-bands. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: They were rockers down south. We call them techers up here.

Speaker: Not say it, but thinking, "Okay, how should I know you" and they'll say, "Oh, no, you would never talk to me 'cause- 'cause like you were one of the academics and I was a techy- Interviewer: Mm. Speaker: Or techer or an O-niner, we used to call them and which is totally out there because you think of it like you-know, the people from technology are to this day making a lot more money than I am...