Speaker: Then they'd uh- two alligators th-- the- Interviewer: What was an alligator? Speaker: It was a small- smaller boat.

And then they'd keep pulling one boom throw the narrows and then the river drivers would keep shoving the logs through and then after a while they'd get this boom full out here and they'd take it back around and fetch that one up and then they'd have a boom full and then they'd hitch on to those alligator or steam-boat and take it down to- put it over Scotch-Dame.

They were big old steam-boats, alligators eh? And they had a mile of cable on them and you fetch them down on to these lakes here (inc).

That's a steam-tug called an alligator. And that's, ah, what they would do would- they would ah, drive the logs down the river part, they'd get to a lake, they'd boom them up and they'd tow them down the lake with this tug and this happened right up until the second war.

Before that, he was also on what they call- in big cities, they call it a tugboat, but here they call it an alligator, and what it meant was that they would get- (clears throat) what they called them- you-know, the- from the bringing up from Madawaska-River. There were b-- what they called booms, and it was never- I-guess in ah- ah- this alligator would bring up- there was, you-know, like a circle, that you'd t-- nowadays, they would put a rubber thing around there to bring the logs in, eh? And they were all there t-- usually 'bout five-hundred, six-hundred logs, and this alligator would bring them all the way up here without a sawmill.