They would answer to- to Nina, not to Antonina, unless you were in trouble. You get the full name out. I- I feel that I had a rich bringing up, because living here on Danforth, even though it was quite tight-knit with the community, it was also because you were right in the city, you were able to experience a lot of things that made you go beyond the Italian experience, you know.

But other than that, ah that gives you a run down ah of my schooling, my bringing up in Schumacher, my ah commitment to the community. I've been involved with so many things now it's unreal when you come down to it. I wrote a resume one time, I wrote it out and I couldn't believe it. I did all those things?

Speaker: And then he came to Canada and he didn't decide he wanted to be that at all. How he exactly got going in- in the painting, I don't really know just what took place there. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: But um, it's kind-of sad that we didn't know more about our dad's bringing up, eh? Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: He was very very well-educated. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: And ah apparently he knew the spices. He could make a- a paper- my mother- my mother would tell us that he could make a paper bag that would hold water.