There wasn't anything done for them really. They're having a- They always had an outdoor rink. It wasn't a closed-in rink, that we had. It was just an outdoor rink. And just a shanty to put your skates on in. One for the girls and one for the boys. And ah it was well, at one time we all had gas lights you-see? We only had- we only had the gas on the corner.

Um, yeah it- it 's quite an interesting country as you can drive from like the urban-centres through these shanty towns and really rural areas where people still believe that if you have sex with like a white virgin then you can get rid of your AIDS.

No, he brought her with her- with ah, two little boys. One was four year old and the other one I-think is just a baby. Come up in the winter-time and made a shanty and stayed.

Yeah so ah that was a place they went in those days. I kind-of believe that maybe in the very beginning that some of those old fellows, not in our gang but probably the Middleville gang, probably were up there in the shanty. I have a feeling that they might have worked for McGinnis up there 'cause that was McGinnis limits.

Speaker: Well, I- I'm pretty sure there was a shanty at, ah, Burnstown. Interviewer: Really? Speaker: And, I- Interviewer: That close to us. Speaker: Yes, but I- I'm not a hundred percent certain on that and that's one thing I should have- should have checked, ah, maybe before my dad had died, but, ah, but, ah- and then I th-- I think there was...

There was a little shanty built in the sugar-bush area, that's where the- that's where the- made the syrup then.