And- it was in about nineteen-twenty-one, and (coughs) I didn't ah- I hadn't been to teacher's college. I had ah, four years in high school and um, I had what was called the model school, a summer school.

Interviewer: Where would those girls get their training? Speaker: Ottawa, the Normal- it was just called the Normal-School then. Interviewer: Mm-hm. There was some- a kind of school in Renfrew that trained teachers. Speaker: Yes, a model school. Interviewer: Yes, might some of- Speaker: That was a third-class teacher. Interviewer: Oh, I see. If you wanted a higher ah certificate you went to- Speaker: You had to go- yeah. You could go to Renfrew, to the model school, with just, um, well, it would be called grade-ten in high-school, now. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Mm-hm. Speaker: We used to call it lower school.

I went, but I went uh to a high-school. This was a high-school trai-- this is where you went for high-school training. And ... this is before O-I-S-E was constructed. But U-T-S was built I think as a place for- sort-of as a model school where- where there would be- they could train teachers as well but... I only actually taught one- I taught the students there for one week but most of my training was out in the- in the schools of Toronto. Then I uh- so I graduated from there I- we- we