Speaker: And ah, my older sister was picking on me and ah- the one that's just next to me- that she'd be the- one, two, three- she'd be the fourth one (laughs). And the closest to my age. Oh yeah, then they got into a big scrap and-- (laughs). Interviewer: Oh! Speaker: I was forgotten (laughs).

Interviewer: Do you remember the most memorable like scrap you had? Speaker: The most memorable scrap, wow. Interviewer: (inc) Speaker: Probably in high-school. A fellow by the name of Dustin-Dupree was his name.

Interviewer: (inc) remember a fight between you and your brother? Speaker: Oh sure. Y-- you know two kids growing up that do-- that didn't have a scrap? No- Interviewer: No. Speaker: No, but we got- we- we were quite d-- he's unfortunately passed away now. We were quite different ah but we got along very very well, yeah.

You-know, like, walking from frigging east coast to Kingston to get into a scrap with the Americans, I-mean, that is unheard of- in the wintertime.