A few chickens see. That helped us out when we were- no work you-know? We worked the land and hewed the garden. Sold our produce in the Belleville-Market at that time. That was back in the dirty thirties as we called it. From thirty-one on. Thirty-four or five.

I can barely remember her actually. I always remember going to her house. They were really poor, you-know, back 'round the dirty thirties and all-that-stuff. They lived in an attic...

Must've had writer's-block occasionally. Interesting. And from there in the dirty-thirties his mother died, and he had ah ah an un-- a brother also working for the-star in the circulation department in Vancouver

And they used to roll their own during the dirty-thirties. There all kids of machines you could roll your own in and ah Ogden.

So in the middle of the dirty-thirties father came back and where he got the love for antiquity I do not know but he roamed the roads in Belleville and environs and collected all the stuff that other people had thrown out as the world became modernized and opened his own antique shop.

Speaker: And I-don't-know if you- I know that you- you may have heard about the dirty-thirties? Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Okay where this- all this wind blew all the soil away so they lost their farm and he- and he heard that the only place that you could make a living was working the mines.

And he bought that in the thirties. Ah to help with the pulp-wood, but because being the dirty-thirties and the depression and all he had a hard time paying for it so he actually brought it back to the person he bought it from to the- the dealership he bought it from in Kirkland-Lake here and told him that he couldn't pay for it.

I was born five days before Christmas in a bedroom off the kitchen in the farmhouse owned by my father, my grandfather before him, and also my great-grandfather. Growing up in the dirty-thirties, as they were called back then, I guess you could say we were poor.