Interviewer: What kind of buildings did they live in? Speaker: Oh, they were- I think they were mostly log-buildings, and um, they had what they called scoops or-something on the roof, I-don't-know, hollowed-out logs, for to- and they put the hollowed log down with the scoo-- ah the hollow up- and then they put another log over two of them, to close the- the space between. Interviewer: Oh, I see- Speaker: Upside-down, you-know? Interviewer: Oh. Speaker: And that was called scoops, I-think. Interviewer: I see. This would be rather than having to plaster in between the logs, and-so-on. I see.

Speaker: See, when I first started mining, to become a first-class miner, you had to- you had to learn everything about mining. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: And ah, today to be classified as miner, you can be- a scoop-tram operator, which is a mucker, you can be a driller, you can be a blaster, you can be a loader, uh, to load the roads, a pipe-fitter, ah, you can be all these things, but to me you're not- you're not a- a first-class miner ...

Speaker: ... it was very difficult because (laughs) excuse the pun, but they get- lot of times they get tunnel vision. Okay? Interviewer: Right. Speaker: So, it's like following that vein, they know that they have a drill, they know they have a scoop tram and they know that they got to blast that- that rock, pick up that rock and take it to the overpass and get it to the mill. And they know that if I- if I drill, blast and haul, I get fourteen dollars an hour at bonus.

Speaker: And then when they did find them, like I said they were- one was underneath one of the ah, the scoop-trams. Basically had- looked like he had ducked under to get ah- but with- you-know you got how many hundreds of t-- thousands of tons that are dropping down. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: So you're under a scoop-tram, no matter how big you-know it's going to come- a-- you-know and one guy was squished there and the other guy- yeah, it wasn't- wasn't good. But so they lost the two lives on that thing there.