But it was a residential area, and that's where we lived and we used to go for a drive out to this Model-City when our children were small, we had our own horse and rig, horse and buggy that is, or horse and sleigh in the winter. We would drive out to see how they were progressing with this tunnel business you-know.

...a tire for the front wheel of the buggy, you would use less footage than you would if you were making the rear wheel of that same rig. The same applied to wagons. The rear wheels were larger than the front wheels. Most rigs, or vehicles with wheels used smaller wheels in front to facilitate the turning, made easier turning.

Others would want a carriage or a buggy that would need only two (…) accommodate only two people and others wanted even a three seated rig. I recall one rig especially, a man had a large family and we made the rig in the form of what we called a democrat, with three seats and each seat would accommodate two adults or three young people.

the outside panels were made of basswood, the frame of the body was usually made of hardwood, or some are hardwoods, white ash was the material used to frame a buggy body. The other, heavier rigs were framed in (…) they were also framed in white ash or oak and hardwood floors, and the same with the buggy, was hardwood floors.

There was not necessarily any foot warmers or anything like that built into the cutters, nor into any rig so far as that is concerned.

The village trade didn’t amount to very much really only two or three rigs a year were sold over over an area or twenty-one miles.

Through the winter these trees would be cut and taken to the saw mills in the spring when the saw mills could get busy. All these logs were sawn into the size material required for the rigs that he had in mind that would be manufactured within the next three years...

No, no no. People had cars by the time I arrived. And um, no I didn 't see any horses. Well only the, the rigs you-know that like, as I say, the bread. It would be cheaper for them to, to feed a horse I guess than to um, buy the- everybody.

And we used to belong to a trailer group where we've travelled all over Ontario. Um, we used to have fun doing that- (inc) maybe twenty-thirty rigs go together and away we go. So we use-- we used to be called The-Wagon-Train, so that's why- we had a lot of fun.

Interviewer: Well what did you do? Speaker: Well I was rough-neck on the rigs, meaning one of the lowest labourers on the rig. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: It was our job to make sure you had to- to hook up the drill stem or to disconnect it if you're pulling out of the hole and-

Interviewer: What would you even have to do- I don't even know how it works when you work on an oil rig. Speaker: Well, you got to set up the rig, number one. And then you drill your casing down into the ground and then inside that, you have your drill stem and then you start drilling.

Interviewer: Where did you- oh, I asked you worked on an oil rig. Speaker: I worked on different oil rigs and drilling and service. Interviewer: What was that like? Speaker: It was good work. Hard work. But you got money, you-know?

Speaker: In Liskeard and then I went one semester here and that was it. Interviewer: Mm. Speaker: Yeah. Interviewer: Just wasn't a big fan of school? Speaker: No, no not- and I mean at seventeen I was out in Alberta, working on the oil rigs so- Interviewer: Oh really? Speaker: You-know, I didn't figure I needed anymore education at that time.

Speaker: It's not like this will happen then this will happen and then I'll do this (laughs). Duh (laughs). Um- Interviewer: What's your basic plan? Speaker: If I can get t-- if I can get to an oil rig, go to an oil rig.

Speaker: She just keeps on rolling over. Humongous chunks of ice and snow out to the side. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Mighty rig.

Well then they'd- they'd bring the- the heavier rig in out of Perth-County and just open the road.