My parents were born in Northern-Ontario and ah they came to South-Porcupine in ninteen-thirty-six. Ah and um dad had a job in a ah assay office at the Panmore-Mine. And ah the Panmore-Mine at that time was ah ah mining very low grade ore, he was told not to bother buying a house because they expectancy of the mine was only about fourteen months.

Interviewer: Lead was also a big issue. Speaker: Yeah, I'm not sure ah what kind of fumes of- I guess lead gets burned off in the ah- Interviewer: Fire assay. Speaker: That- yeah and that's what he did first, was fire-assaying. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: Well that's all he did then. And then ah he went back to ah Haileybury School of Mines and took a- a course in ah atomic absorption.

Speaker: Oh he was very proud of it. And he was very very clean, um and that was something that ah didn't meet with a lot of approval but he wa-- but by the way he was the first man to hire a women in the assay office. Interviewer: Oh really? Speaker: Yup. So she was the first gal- besides office work, but he was the- he was- he hired the first female.