Yeah and he did everything over there pretty well. If anything, he mixed it- mixed the stuff and (inc) sent Danny to ah the States some place on a fir-- course on this- and doing these kind of things. And he never did it.

Um (sighs) the- the housing market- this is my understanding, when the housing market crashed in the States like take ah- Grants up here out in Englehart, you must've went by it, it's actually Georgia-Pacific now.

Ah she works at Three-H-Furniture- ... And she's ah customer-service. ... So she gets people, she gets to talk to people from in the States 'cause one of the main customers are the United-States and so she talks to a whole bunch of people from there and she gets a couple people from Canada and she gets all the people who complain.

Like it's not fun shoveling know all the time, you-know, but I- I can't see myself living in the States where the have tornadoes and devastations like they do, so I'm thinking living in the North is- hey, we don't get what they get.

Interviewer: Wow, Yellow-Stone. Speaker: Yup. Interviewer: Where's about is that (laughs)? Speaker: That's in the States in the-

You-know, as an example, um, maybe you don't remember them. Do you remember the old um billboards that used to be in the States, and I- Burma-Shave or-something where they'd have part of the- part of the advertisement here and then another half part way down the road and another one part way down the road.

Last year we went down into the States for our honeymoon-

So there's teams- well, there's teams from like Toronto and Ottawa, so I think there were scouts there from all schools and the States. They probably just liked one of the games I played in.

'Cause a lot of the time right now, a lot of the students don't even get their education here for med school. A lot of them go to say McGill or-things-like-that, Quebec or even go to the States so it's going to be more of an incentive program. I think right now the signing bonus here- to stay here is- all doctors get a signing bonus incentive. Thing is here, only here is thirty-thousand-dollars.

Well, good thing, it's not the States, 'cause then there wouldn't be no taxes on it 'cause rich people don't get taxed in the States.

Well I don't know what the laws are like in the States, but here I can't take any money um, for anything that goes on on my property without it affecting the amount of risk that my insurance company takes and-

Tom and I have travelled a good bit. We've been, you-know, out to the West-Coast and- and different places. We've been down through the States, San-Fransisco, he has a sister living in Boston, down-

Interviewer: What about- were you close with your grandparents? Speaker: Quite close. Yes my grandparents from here. My grandparents from the States-

Interviewer: And do you remember getting sick with chickenpox or- Speaker: Yeah, measles and- I think I had the works (laughs). Interviewer: Were they- were they really bad in those days? Speaker: Um, well now-

I can honestly say I always did that. But it ah- it helped me make money for my daughter to go to university. My one daughter is a triple gold metal in skating. She teaches figure-skating now. And that go-- that was a lot of money in them days. In nin-- na-- that made all the money for me to- for them to go.

What you grew in the garden is what you- what you lived off of. What extra you had, you went and sold it. So, you-know, we've come a long ways. People don't think so but we've come a long ways. But them days were a lot of fun too.

So we had a lot of fun playing together, we go across the road. Of course you'd have your little tiffs and- and you'd have your- your good times and we had a lot of fun.

I've been- I've been to like, you-know, eighties parties obviously and um I've been do like tight-and-bright where you wear like neon colours. I've been to- what else did we do?

...but I only w-- stayed for one and a half years so (laughs) got half way through grade-ten when the mines all closed down and everybody was ah- you-know, tightfisted and out of work and that-sort-of-thing so my- my mother took a trip up to f-- um Artfield to her brother's place to see if she could get a job...

Speaker: Ah, um teachers are teachers, I guess. Interviewer: Yeah. Were they good. Speaker: Professional. For the most part, yes. Interviewer: Strict? Speaker: Well your- things were a little more strict then, yeah. And you can get the strap at school- Speaker: I don't think they do that anymore.