... it's not built on a- on a defined grid pattern per-se, so you'll- rather than- than getting two streets coming together, you may get just as easily three streets come together so everything is what they call square, so you'll go through Kenmore-Square, and such-and-such Square, Harvard-Square, one square after another, and when- when you get three streets converging, I mean the dynamics is just intensified so much and then it tends to let down as you get out there.

And then there was a back porch on it that they used- They used to call 'em summer kitchens.

Speaker: North-York around Bathurst-and-Finch. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: Which at that point in time was way out in the boonies, it was just ah miles and miles away from anything. And ah, I mean I remember driving down to um my grandmother's house, to ah go for Sunday dinner every week, and we would go by farms as we were going south 'cause they lived Bayview-and-Eglington and we were going south from where we were. We would go by horse farms and cow farms and sheep farms and-stuff-like-that.

We had one meal that we ate together a week and that was at ah College and Bathurst at a place called the Beefeater, next to Mars. And my dinner was, every Sunday, the same thing. It was the big Sunday dinner. Chili-con-carne and toast, pineapple-sundae and a vanilla-Coke. And then the rest of the week, we spent- we had a jar of coffee and we used to eat stale donuts. We used to get it at (inc) for ten cents a dozen.

Interviewer: What kind of traditions did you have? Speaker: Um. We could basically- during the week if you-know we were out as I got older- if we were out and-whatever that 's fine- dinner- Sunday-dinner was Sunday-dinner, um, we didn 't- and- and growing-up as a child we never ate dinner 'til (until) my father came home. Whatever time it- that may be. It could be eight-o-clock it could be nine-o-clock at night ...

Interviewer: Do you carry traditions that other people don't? Speaker: Um...well I always remembered- like I don 't do it so much now 'cause it's summertime and that but S-- Sunday dinners was always a traditional English Sunday dinner and um going to church. M-- my religious faith is very important to me and again d-- when- when I look at who- the pe-- there's still lots of people go to church ...

... the tradition, and (inc) no, we're not gonna date. We're like de-facto engaged. Soon as you walked into this house, and you're gonna be given the third degree," and- and I was like, "How do I break this to my parents?" you-know? So it's after Sunday dinner, they're putting all the food away and they're putting- you-know, my mother's ready to clean the plates and the table and so am I, and of course I had to you-know, know how to do all the chores.

... he met my parents, the next night, I went to go meet his, and they were going away to whatever, down south for a couple weeks, and all this time, the two weeks that they were away, they- my father- well, Demetri always kept on coming over on Sundays for the Sunday dinner, the major Sunday dinner of course, and he would- getting close to the day that they- they would come back ...

Interviewer: What kinds of meals did you eat growing up? What- do- Speaker: You know my mother would buy a four-pound roast of beef for Saturday- for Sunday dinner and we'd eat Sunday and we'd eat all week off that darn thing. Interviewer: Really? Speaker: Yeah. You- well half the week anyway. You'd have it ah cold the next night and then she'd make a stew with it the night after and sandwiches ...

Um, I have a lot of memories actually, 'cause my grandmother was one of those people that insisted all their children come to Sunday dinner. So we went, even after we had moved to Brantford, we went to Sunday dinner at my grandmother's every Sunday, this is without fail so, um, yeah there was a lot of time spent- I have a lot of memories, I mean we grew up mostly on the Danforth,

Um, I have a lot of memories actually, 'cause my grandmother was one of those people that insisted all their children come to Sunday dinner. So we went, even after we had moved to Brantford, we went to Sunday dinner at my grandmother's every Sunday, this is without fail so, um, yeah there was a lot of time spent- I have a lot of memories, I mean we grew up mostly on the Danforth ...

Interviewer: Did you sell your eggs or was it just for yourselves? Speaker: No, we didn't sell them, we just had them ourselves. Interviewer: Right, right. Speaker: Every once in a while my father would kill a chicken for Sunday dinner. Or maybe a special dinner if we had visitors. We would have chicken. I really liked chicken in those day. Nowadays I can take it or leave it because the store-bought chickens don't have much flavour.

Like who talks about their subject when they're eating supper? Only the physicists. They're the only one's who every talk about. Like I don't talk about, we talk about philosophy, but not necessarily what they were studying, just philosophy we're really interested in. No one talks about their life science class or English class. The only people talk about it are physicist.

I can't tell you exactly how old I was but um, we ate in the breakfast-room. And um, breakfast, lunch and supper. And I didn't sit down at a dinner table with my parents- I, I must have been somewhere in my, oh, early teens.

Speaker" But their Imperial-room was pretty special. Interviewer: Was it? Speaker: Well yeah I can remember going there- I-mean, not many people I knew went- well we went to this supper- club at the Imperial-room. And Lorne-Green who used to- he was a broadcaster.

And they're acting differently, and they're dressing differently, I'm sure there's quite a transformation when they go home, and they're having supper with their parents.

Speaker: We'd go down on the streetcar, ah sometimes we went down with my dad. Ah, he would drive us down and pick us up for suppertime to come home. So that he worked around down in that area, so we were all right that way.

Speaker: At that time of year. Um, we'd go out and play in the snow or something-like-that and um, then we would have supper at the farm as well. Interviewer: What would you have for supper? The traditional meal? Speaker: Ah, ye-- Yeah but it would be the left-overs of the turkey.

I know one thing too that I think was (inc) back then but circumstances were different. We always gathered- we- we nearly always were there for supper, you-know. And Sundays was always a roast-beef dinner night-

Like there- there weren't hockey games that the kids had to go out and play. And there- well, four girls. We didn't play hockey, but- it was a rule. Like we were always there for supper, on particularly Sunday. But Saturdays, we were- we were always in- in too. And the hockey game on the radio for my dad.