So, like, when I was graduating high-school, it was big in, like, grade-seven, eight, nine years. And apparently, it's still big in th-- the States. What it is is, like, if it's black- don't judge. My elastic's black. If it's like- there's- different colours mean sexual favours.

Yeah we went to Florida and ah where else in the States? When I was a child we went- I went with my parents to Florida once by car so we seen a lot of places in the States on our journey that way. But with- since I married, I don't think so.

So when you did finally talk to them, yeah they had their way and you had yours. Whereas these days it's not unusual for you to converse with somebody that's from Toronto or somebody that's from the States. And so you're communicating more often with those people and so yeah your language barrier is coming- becoming smaller.

If you don't understand anything, you become a teacher, okay? We switched. Grade thirteen in Canada was the equivalent of first-year university in the States. Christ, I heard that for so many years, it was unreal. Ah on top of that, on top of that, grade twelve. How old are you? You're not in grade twelve.

Speaker: Like if I'm going to travel I love enjoying seeing Canada. Interviewer: Right. Speaker: You-know um, even the States doesn't even excite me a whole lot. I've been to the States. I've- I've driven to the States. I just enjoy Canada. I-don't-know.

That's um- the one time that I drove across Canada with my wife we decided to take the ferry with like- with the vehicle on- on the ferry to Victoria. And then from Victoria into the States. ... And then we drove actually down highway one on the west-coast, right down to Los-Angeles.

And- and it was just basically a driving trip. We just wanted to go down and see the west-coast of the States and that was about a six-week tour, that one. From Timmins all the way across Canada. To Vancouver, Victoria down the west-coast to L-A. And then we came back basically the same route.

Interviewer: Can you describe your ah trips to other places a little? Speaker: Wa-- well, i-- f-- I've been to the States several times. Ah my brother and I are avid sports fans, so we di-- we've done several, several ah sports- little trips.

Interviewer: Anywhere you'd like to travel? Anywhere you'd like to go and you can just stay? Speaker: Ah travel, just ah like I said Europe and- and ah Ireland for sure. Um I like going into the States but I also like staying in Canada. So I'd like to travel Canada more with the family and- s-- so we could all see it.

Ah as a kid, I travelled. I've been to England and France and ah down through the States b-- and Quebec. But I'd never been to Western-Canada 'til I started traveling for work.

And then, for work, I've travelled to the west-coast, and I've travelled to- to Northwestern-Ontario, and down through to ah Nevada and through the States, but haven't been any further than that.

Ah I can still travel to Toronto and go see the big shows, I can still travel to the States and see the big shows. So there's nothing stopping me from that. Ah flights- might be nice to have a flight that was reasonable.

Oh yeah, we've been to a lot of places in the States, like um, Florida.

Interviewer: Can you explain how ah, in your family history, through your grandparents immigrating, how it is they came to settle in this specific area? Speaker: Well, specifically because of mining. Um, my grandmother came over with ah family she was the nanny and my grand-- met my grandfather in the-States, where he was working mining and then they got married and moved up here because mining was the profession, in those days.

Interviewer: You don't know if your grand-- your grandparents must have landed in Halifax or- or in the States? Speaker: Nope, in the-States. New-York-City. Interviewer: Okay, and ah, so then, did they go up through Quebec, they must have took the tram to- to get up here. Speaker: That I'm not sure of.

Interviewer: And have you traveled anywhere else? Speaker: I s-- I- I spent a lot of time traveling the States before that. Like in the eighties and-that.

Interviewer: Do you think it's becoming more and more similar to each other because of the media or do you think it's diverging because of the media? Speaker: I'd have to say it's converging. Because a lot of our media in Canada is coming from the States, and if you think of what the audience would be it's- say if American media is getting to Canadians then that's getting to their entire population and our entire population at the same time and we're all watching the same shows.

Um, I would probably like to travel like, a bit more around the States, maybe like South-America, just to see like, maybe like Rio, stuff-like-that. Maybe Australia, probably definitely Ja-- like Japan and China, because I've heard a lot about that, and it's kind of futuristic there, and that's really it, and Europe of course.

... like she's not bad to have around, but it's like annoying 'cause she'll flip-shit any two seconds. And then I have my other- like another manager who is- she's super chill and she's su-- like she'll buy us Timmies and she'll let us go do whatever we want- like we're allowed to like just chill instead of like worrying and-stuff-like-that about what like making the store look good all the time. So she's cool to have ...

Speaker: 'Cause people be like "Ah do you know who's it?" and then they'd come up and tag you and it's just like "Ugh, should have been paying attention." Interviewer: Yeah see we knew that either as monster tag or family tag, that's what we knew those as, but- Speaker: Or ghost-in-the-graveyard. But that was mostly not at school, that was at night.