... nobody ever, ever, ever answered back a teacher in the classes I was in. I don't ever remember anybody- actually, we got straps though too, when we were in public-school. I got the strap from that principal because um he wasn't in the classroom yet, so I was turned around talking to my friend behind me and we weren't supposed to talk ... We were supposed to stay quiet and do our work. But of-course, I like to talk, so I would talk to my friend and I got the strap for-Pete's-sakes. I thought, "Heavenly, I didn't do anything wrong!" I didn't ah- I never told my parents I got the strap, because if I had gone home and said I got the strap for talking, I'd probably get another one at home. So I just stayed quiet.

But those days, any little thing you did wrong in public-school, you had to go to the principal and he'd give you about three smacks on each hand with that crazy strap of his. Your- your hands were pretty red when you came out of there. Could you imagine doing that now? ... That would not go over very well. I don't think you'd get a kid in there to get a strap anyway. They wouldn't allow it- they wouldn't even go in the office but no.

And I remember taking out of my desk, and saying, "What is this?" And she gave me the strap for that. Um in grade-four, it was for talking.

Oh, I remember ah with my natural dad ah he was more into the corporal-punishment-type stuff. ... So you ended up with a strap or- I remember ah (inc) the one incident I remember is I came in having done something and ah ah I ducked, because you get the little cuff on the back of the head, you-know. ... And ah I ducked. And I didn't get the cuff on the head, I got the boot.

Ah, Miss-Howards in grade two, I got the strap for the first time, well, the only time, for playing with plasticine in my hand- my homework hadn't been handed in yet. Very strong disciplinarian.

They had the strap when ah- at the ah- well I was at Lauriel (sp) like the first couple of years. I didn't- I didn't like using it though.

I had to use it once 'cause the principal (laughs) forced me to use it. And I only give one little slap in each hand and not even th-- not much force 'cause I did- I said I did- "I don't want to strap him." "You- that's your responsibility. You got to do it. You brought the kid to the office." But I only had to use it once and I- I didn't like it.

Exactly, would have brought more of the ah- yeah, that's it, you-know like the enrichment that you guys needed and deserved- (laughs) your hands are tied when they give you all that stuff that you've got to cover by the end of such and such. You have no chance of diverting and making minds open even further than what they possibly could.

If he- he had that door closed on the side there and he gets in and he can put everything in and close the door. If he had a small load go up. (inc) suppose to go up. And he went- and I- and I- that supper (inc)- I was going home that night and next morning I found out that he was- they had to went down- Jarred-Mouve went down there and he wasn't feeling too good.

So I picked up my two grand-daughters and my- my daughter had a bunch of bags one day for supper for Sunday- she has a bunch of bags to- all (inc) that you carry on, (inc). (inc) we going to clean that room, that border room there. Clean it up downstairs, it's packed.

And ah she said "He's going to fail." And I said "No, he isn't." She said, "There's only five weeks to the end of school." And I said, "Leave it with me." So after supper, every night I had an old royal typewriter, manual that you had to bang every key (laughs). And it came out on the dining room table, dishes cleared.

Speaker: (laughs) um (laughs) um so- what time did supper start at? Like, eight-o-clock or? Interviewer: Six (laughs). Speaker: It started at six? Interviewer: Six, yeah.

Speaker: ... it started at seven, 'cause I remember, at seven-thirty, supper still hadn't come out. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: And I was like, "What the fuck's going on?" Anyways, so it started at seven-o-clock and um and supper hadn't started being served 'til, like, seven-thirty or something. And um w-- I-don't-know, food comes out in, like, little tiny plates. So it's a fucking plate with ah, like, one slice of cheese, two olives and, like, two slices of meat (laughs).

So yeah, she'll- she'll know those traditions and I mean she's already playing the piano ah she already realizes that Sunday is family day to have supper together and when we do something she always wonders "Well where's all the rest of the family?"

I didn't mind the food there. We always um- I remember that supper time was always a big thing in Italy. And that one night we had been travelling a lot and so we went into the restaurant and we thought "Oh just a bowl of soup and a piece of bread. That's all we want."

And Hannah is often busy so they've dwindled a little bit, our Sunday suppers, but I presume that they'll start up again in September.

And every time we sat down for supper he always said "Is this moose? 'Cause I'm not hungry if it is."

My mother always showed me how to do stuff. And when I got to be a teenager it was- it was expected that, you-know, on some days it was my day to make supper. I remember the year we built- my parents built the house. They were often busy at the- at the lot and I learned to cook then.

So when we say today's our ravioli day, well that's a day we get together and everybody has their little specific job but everybody knows everybody else's job so when you make that it's- we start right away after lunch and takes 'til supper time and we just make a whole bunch of them.

And we usually play cards or Monopoly or -something-like-that after- after supper ah on Christmas-Eve.