Interviewer: What about that object over there. What would you call that object? Speaker: A packsack? Interviewer: Yeah? What do you think someone from Southern-Ontario would call that?

Interviewer: Let me start you off with a example here ah- what would you call this? Speaker: Packsack. Interviewer: That's right! Speaker: They don't have packsack down south. Interviewer: What is that? Speaker: You say packsack and everybody looks at you weird. Interviewer: It's- they call it a backpack.

Interviewer: Let me start you off with a example here ah- what would you call this? Speaker: Packsack. Interviewer: That's right! Speaker: They don't have packsack down south.

Interviewer: Let me start you off with a example here ah- what would you call this? Speaker: Packsack. Speaker: That's right! Speaker: They don't have packsack down south.

Speaker: Ah no, see, okay, no, I- I still remember schoolbag being said. Packsack however when you take it out on adventure. Interviewer: Oh really? Okay. Speaker: Yes. Interviewer: 'Cause we- Speaker: Like going camping or something like that.

Interviewer: Really? Okay. Um- Speaker: What d-- what do you call it? Interviewer: Packsack. Speaker: Oh, I see. Yeah, packsack. Interviewer: Right. Did your generation call it a packsack at all, or- ? Speaker: Somethings we call it packsacks, eh? L-- lot of time we use the word duffle-bag. Packsack is it- ah like a packsack for hunting you-know like- Interviewer: Right. Speaker: Yeah. We use that for ah that terminology.

Interviewer: I think younger generations and- and- and s-- ah, I think i-- I think even some older generations still called it this, I grew up calling it a packsack. I- and to this day I still call it a packsack. Speaker: A packsack yeah. Yeah. Interviewer: Right, um- Speaker: School bag, that's what we call it. Interviewer: So, did you hear packsack thrown around when you were- when you were younger or with your kids or- Speaker: Not with school bags but packsack was a common word with other things you-know, like if you were carrying- you were carrying something, say on your shoulders, it would be a packsack. Interviewer: Right. Speaker: Or if you went out in the ah bush for something, it was a packsack.

Interviewer: I think younger generations and- and- and s-- ah, I think i-- I think even some older generations still called it this, I grew up calling it a packsack. I- and to this day I still call it a packsack. Speaker: A packsack yeah. Yeah. Interviewer: Right, um- Speaker: School bag, that's what we call it. Interviewer: So, did you hear packsack thrown around when you were- when you were younger or with your kids or- Speaker: Not with school bags but packsack was a common word with other things you-know, like if you were carrying- you were carrying something, say on your shoulders, it would be a packsack. Interviewer: Right. Speaker: Or if you went out in the ah bush for something, it was a packsack.

Speaker: But, ah ah, backpack is what- the only thing I, ah- I've ever heard. Interviewer: Well, your- your children being the age they are now, have you ever heard your children refer, ah- 'cause I know their generation definitely would have had it- have you ever heard them refer to it as a packsack? Speaker: Ah, I've heard the word "packsack", we've always had that word here. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Okay, ah- Interviewer: 'Cause, I grew up talking- calling it that way and even to this day I still call it a packsack, so. Speaker: Yeah. Ah, packsack comes from ah, back in- in the days when ah, before the railway came in.

I-don't-know. I think it's just the use of certain words like Juliet was saying before she left that people just add in "there" or you-know that some people call a backpack, you-know, a packsack.

Speaker: Um, well I refer to it a-- as a backpack ... Um, most of the people in my generation would usually call it that too. There are a few people that would call it a back-sack, or-something. Interviewer: A pack-sack? Speaker: Or yes, pack-sack right? yes I have heard back-sack. It's kind of funny.

Yeah, I didn't have a packsack or- or a knapsack or a- I had a gym-bag. So it was a gym-bag.

Interviewer: See I grew up with pack-sack. Speaker: Yeah. Interviewer: All- all my friends in (inc) called it a pack-sack. And when you go down to Southern Ontario you say pack-sack they look at you like "What the hell is that?" Speaker: Well I- I think that's what I call it is a pack-sack. But then because to me back-pack is a back-pack for going packing you-know? It's not you-know something.

Speaker: Okay. Okay. Interviewer: Just so you know. Speaker: Definitely yeah. Anyways. Well grade twelve's always been anyways. But um yeah he did- he basically does penny-wars and he- I was um I got elected onto O-S-O this year and ah I had to be at the penny-wars like- like um ceremony thing. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: And ah he tries to get people so pumped up for it but it usually- like it usually sucks. Like people usually just laugh at him. Like "Penny-wars! Whoo! I love penny-wars!"

Speaker: Okay. Okay. Interviewer: Just so you know. Speaker: Definitely yeah. Anyways. Well grade twelve's always been anyways. But um yeah he did- he basically does penny-wars and he- I was um I got elected onto O-S-O this year and ah I had to be at the penny-wars like- like um ceremony thing. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: And ah he tries to get people so pumped up for it but it usually- like it usually sucks. Like people usually just laugh at him. Like "Penny-wars! Whoo! I love penny-wars!"

Um that- that as well sucks 'cause (laughs) my father- my father is really outgoing and he's very- he's very loud and ah it's kind of embarrassing once in a while 'cause he has this thing called penny-wars. I'd pretty sure.

Interviewer: Okay. Do you ah- do you- do you fish in there? Speaker: Um, not a lot. But we do. Interviewer: What kind of fish do you have in the lake? Speaker) Pike, pickerel.

Interviewer: Now fishing in Nighthall-Lake where you- Nighthawk-Lake, were you fishing for pickerel or whitefish? But you-know, guessing- Speaker: Hopefully pickerel. Interviewer: Right. But whitefish is very- very common for Finnish ah people to eat. It's- I know- I know lots of Finnish families here that love whitefish so- Speaker: Well I think we prefer the pickerel and we- what's the other one? Pickerel and- Interviewer: Bass, perch, pike. Speaker: Pike. That's a- in- when the water was cold, pike was nice. Interviewer: Fried- the problem with fishing for pike in the summer it's slimy, yeah. Speaker: Yeah, well it- it- when the water's warm, the- they kind of outgrow themselves and- Interviewer: Right. Speaker: But pickerel is nice.

Interviewer: Now fishing in Nighthall-Lake where you- Nighthawk-Lake, were you fishing for pickerel or whitefish? But you-know, guessing- Speaker: Hopefully pickerel. Interviewer: Right. But whitefish is very- very common for Finnish ah people to eat. It's- I know- I know lots of Finnish families here that love whitefish so- Speaker: Well I think we prefer the pickerel and we- what's the other one? Pickerel and- Interviewer: Bass, perch, pike. Speaker: Pike. That's a- in- when the water was cold, pike was nice. Interviewer: Fried- the problem with fishing for pike in the summer it's slimy, yeah. Speaker: Yeah, well it- it- when the water's warm, the- they kind of outgrow themselves and- Interviewer: Right. Speaker: But pickerel is nice.

Interviewer: Ah, what kind of fish you guys get at the lake? Speaker: Pike, and pickerel.