, because people get so pissed at you 'cause your packsack takes up space. They start punching your bag and

Interviewer: What about in terms of English? Speaker: Um the English versus the French, the slang terms? Interviewer: The slang terms in Northern-Ontario compared to Southern-Ontario. Speaker: Um the backpack-packsack thing? (laughs). Yeah. Well, I noticed hoodie and sweatshirt. Some people were confused by that. I don't know if everyone would be, but I think some people were.

Interviewer: My generation and my father's generation ah have always known it as a packsack. And if you go to North-Bay, if you go to Sudbury- Speaker: You call it a packsack? Interviewer: I've always called it a packsack, my entire my life...

Um I guess we do have certain, like, sayings or whatever. Like, I-don't-know, I guess most people say it's like, you-know, "May-Two-Four" or n-- um what else? Packsack- (inc) a few words, I guess. I-don't-know, maybe, we pronounce couple of words differently. Maybe we say, "Eh?" more, I'm not sure.

Interviewer: Okay. He may pronounce it- he may say it different actually but what would you call that item over there? Speaker: A packsack? Interviewer: Yes. That's the big one.

Speaker: ...I-don't-know, school-bag? Interview: Or packsack? Speaker: Packsack? Interviewer: Do you not call it a packsack? Speaker: No. Interviewer: Like almost everyone in Northern-Ontario calls it a packsack. Speaker: I don't call it a packsack. Interviewer: Even all your siblings call it a packsack. Speaker: A packsack? Okay. We call it a packsack but I don't- Interviewer: That's a Northern-Ontario thing. Speaker: Really? Interviewer: Northern-Ontarios say packsack and Southern-Ontario people do not.

Sudbury might, too. But then you hit, like, Barrie and you say, "a packsack" and people are like, "What are you talking about? Oh, a backpack."

Thing's we're a little friendlier, too. Um I don't know, we have words like, I don't know, like packsack. If I say, "a packsack," you'll understand what I'm saying.

Interviewer: Whereas you- this- this object here, what would you call this object? Speaker: Call that? Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: A packsack. Interviewer: Right. And only people in Northern-Ontario would call it a packsack. Speaker: Yeah. Interviewer: People in Southern-Ontario would call it a backpack.

Interviewer: ...what about- well then we're gonna say that oh northern Ontario versus southern Ontario, do you find we, northern Ontario, speak differently than people in southern Ontario? Speaker: Yeah, when it comes to the backpack and packsack.

Interviewer: You call that thing a fucking backpack? Speaker: Yeah. I call packsack more though. Interviewer: Yeah, you been spending too much time down south there. Speaker: I know, I know, I know my brother's- calls them backpack 'cause he's lived down there so he- I say- I say backpack rarely. But I call then packsacks. Interviewer: Yeah everyone calls them packsacks (inc) Timmins. Speaker: Yeah, I know- I was actually- I was actually thinking that. My brother had said that. He's like "Hey can you grab me my ah packsack?" And the guys are like- in Toronto were like "Your what?" I'm like "My packsack. Right there." He's like "You mean your backpack?" Like "No what you just said was weird." (laughs).

Interviewer: What would you call that object over there? Speaker: A back-pack? Packsack?

Interviewer: So just as a common example what would you call that object right there? Speaker: The bag, packsack, bag ah. Interviewer: Do you think someone in Toronto might call it something different? Speaker: My carry-on. Interviewer: Like, definitely, there's a difference between packsack and back-pack between Northern-Ontario and Southern-Ontario. Speaker: Oh! I forgot about back-pack! That's what that's called, eh? That's right. Yeah yeah, maybe that's it or. Yeah, I called it packsack just now eh? Or a bag. Yeah, "Grab your bag, kids. Kids, grab your bag. Pa-- unpack your bags, kids." Yeah gr-- ah oh, we- and you know what? The kids need a new packsack. Back-sack- back-pack. Back-pack might be the back country you-know in the- back-pack, that's you-know when you do hiking in it. Yeah that's a- that's a word.

Interviewer: So like what would- what would you call that object over there? Speaker: That? Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Oh a packsack, or a back-pack, or you-know. Iinterviewer: Would you not say that people in Southern-Ontario would never call it a packsack. That's a Northern-Ontario thing? Speaker: Ah I-don't-know, could be the way that- 'cause like different companies call them different things too. Like (inc), I think they call them packsacks, don't they?

Interviewer: When I was down south, the big one for us was packsack. We'd say- Speaker: Packsack.

Interviewer: …we say packsack people will look at us like, "What the hell is a packsack?!" Speaker: What's a packsack, yeah.

Speaker: ...little expressions that they had never heard of you-know like, May Run was roots? Interviewer: No. Speaker: No? Oh back-pack? Interviewer: No. Speaker: No? What? Interviewer: Packsack. Speaker: Oh packsack, yeah. There you go, okay. Ah that they- they- they don't use in Toronto

Interviewer: Timmins, like can you think of a w-- another word that someone that northern Ontario might call a bag or a school bag? Speaker: Ah I-don't-know packsack maybe?

Well, we got a course our own different languages we- you know, we t-— we say- apparently we say knap-sack, they say packsack, type of thing I-don't-know. I've heard that before.

Interviewer: You don't call it a packsack? Speaker: No. Packs- well, yeah. But I don't- I-don't-know I don't- packsack bag. Back-pack. Interviewer: Do you think- do you think that's a Northern-Ontario thing or Timmins thing packsack. A lot of people calling bags packsack. You go out to Toronto you say packsack people will look at you and they go, "What the hell is a packsack?"