This has since been pushed into- and it should be, it sh-- you shouldn't be dissecting a dew worm in university.

That's where your call had to go through there. So a few people had the- we- we didn't have no phone.

Speaker: He worn a- he just wore a new suit. Interviewer: A new suit? Speaker: Yeah. You didn't have no such a thing as renting.

Speaker: ... if you didn't have- got three words wrong in spelling or-something, you got the strap. Interviewer: Oh my gosh. Speaker: Oh yeah, that- it worked. They were supposed to be nuns, but they were- they were nones all right. They didn't have no brains. And ah, oh, we got for picking on other boys or- or throwing snowballs and we weren't supposed to, or-something. Interviewer: Yeah? Did you ever play a trick on the nuns? Speaker: Yup.

And I had to walk about, ah, what- about two miles I suppose it was before, ah, we get to school. And, ah, we didn't have no electricity at the house. I had no electricity in the school. We had a wood stove that we, ah, kept warm in the wintertime and, ah, no water in the house either ...

But, um, ah, what else did we do? With skating- skating we didn't have- we couldn't skate because we didn't have no skates. So, ah, we ended up, ah- we had one skate. We'd learn how to skate on the one skate, eh?

And again that was just walking. We didn't have no buses or anything at all. Everybody had to walk. Sometimes- the other, ah, neighbours of ours that lived farther away from us had to walk about three miles in the wintertime, you-know, and summertime. Interviewer 3: Yeah. Speaker 02: You-know. And, ah, ah, there was- oh, it was- it was

Speaker: Everybody got married on a Monday- a Tuesday or- or Wednesday or Thursday. Nobody got married- Interviewer: Oh, why? Speaker: Why? Because we didn't have no electricity and we had no place to keep our food, eh? Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: So it- everything- like, usually every- weddings were on a Tuesday because they would, ah, kill the chicken or turkey or whatever they had. Turkey was very occasional.

And, ah, I had a dress, a beautiful dress. My mother-in-law, his mom, ah, made it over for me. Like, she- she thought it was, ah- it was a- it didn't have no sequins on it and she wanted it flashy so she went ahead and put some sequins on it which made it really pretty, you-know? Ah, really different than- than today.

“And we freeze them, and then we divvy them all out when they're frozen, and everyone has wonderful apple-pies.”

Speaker: ... otherwise if we would have been spoiled like, some of these kids today when I look back at some of these kids today, it's unbelievable. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: You know and I think you know it yourself- Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: When you look back like, these kids have no respect, they don't have no- I don't know, pride, they don't- you-know, the respect I think is the big thing and for themself, they have no ambition.

Speaker: ... I just go just to go spend a day, do some cooking but now I do- since I've been retired, I'm their cook for the two weeks when they come up- all get together. Interviewer: So it's- Speaker: Kind of a family affair.

That didn't last very long. And then he ah- became a blacksmith, and from there he became a fireman, and then he- he eventually became a- what they call a third-class station engineer.

And then- he worked in them- they had a mill down here. And ah- they- they had some- he was the fireman there for a while, and then became an engineer.

So mostly your- the- the nights were very short, because you weren't in the house, eh? And by the time you'd g-- do the dishes, it was time for to go to bed.

Interviewer: Yeah. So where did you go for high-school? Speaker: I didn't. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: Parents couldn't afford for to go to high-school.

Um, a lot of deer. Um, like we'll be four-wheeling. On like, trails, like back- back in the bush or-whatever.

Interviewer: Did you have any favourite games you guys liked to play? Speaker: Ah, in the wintertime it was fox-and-goose. Interviewer: Fox-and-goose? Speaker: Yes. (laughs) Interviewer: I've never heard of that one- Speaker: You never- Interviewer: How do you play? Speaker: You made a big circle in the snow. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: And then divided it- dissected it in half like a big "T".

'Cause a lot of the times, like, it'll just- it'll freeze-rain a bit, or- 'cause the russ-- the buses have to go on a lot of back roads around here, so they can't get on the back road, so they can't just pick up like, half the kids, so they just cancel all the buses.

Speaker: My other daughter is living in, um, Round-Lake. And she has a son and is expecting a second child. Interviewer: Oh, yeah, you were saying. Speaker: Yeah, so, um- and she is the gal, Jill, who wants to come by and take a photograph of the apple-trees with herself when she's eight-months pregnant.