So it's rubies and diamonds, which I'm so happy to have, but- and I'm so proud to wear it because I can just imagine some other gal would have worn it, years ago, right? And I- so I don't know anything about it, but I'm now the proud owner, and one my daughters will have it eventually.

nd um, they do the- the folk art and they have the traditional garb and all the dances and then right across is the traditional um-

"Well, we'll try to dress them- the kids- children, ah- in- in the Indian costume," you-know, in their Indian garb, eh?

I don't know whether they have the kids coming up with the garb, but they still have that same infant there yet.

with a little more judgment, and you-know you're able to have more of a conversation with them and yeah. Interviewer: Why were they- why did they seem so scary? Speaker: I don't know, I guess because I was a brand new teacher, and you-know they were just like big goomers. They were big and- and I- and- and see I did my- my bachelor of Ed. in primary, so I never really had any experience with you-know, older students.

Um- and then I was the first one to leave home. Um- I went to teacher's-college so I did grade-thirteen here and then I left to go to teacher's-college at eighteen.

Interviewer: Where did you go to teacher's-college? Speaker: Ottawa. And it was only one year at the time, eh? Mm-hm. You didn't have to have your degree. So I went from grade-thirteen, teacher's-college one year and then teaching. And we got a job just like that. You went- we went- people came, school-boards came to the ah Ottawa teacher's-college and you picked whatever county you wanted to go to.

Yeah because I didn't go into the high-school. The high-school here in Madawaska-Valley, I'm a first year graduate. I only went there for grade-thirteen. So from ah Saint-Joseph's we went to Stratford I think one year and then- and then we went to Expo. That was our big thing.

... new Catholic-Church, was the last school I went to. Then on to high-school at- in Barry's-Bay for ah, Matawaska-Valley-District-High-school for my grade-thirteen.

... there were kids that met kids from Killaloe or kids from you-know, Palmer-Rapids or Combermere, and they started to go together in grade-nine, they got married in grade-twelve or grade-thirteen, and they're still married today.

Interviewer: Have you ever been to the Wilno-Tavern? Speaker: Oh many times. Many many times. Yeah, yup. Yeah. It's fun to go there and- and ah- I didn't go there so much, 'cause when I was in high-school you could drink at eighteen, s-- and I was eighteen in grade-thirteen, so you could go to the bar when you were eighteen. And ah- but people- we didn't go to Wilno.

So you'd go down to Martha's on a Friday night and there was a band playing or if it was you-know after school or-whatever and you're in grade-thirteen and you think you're like really wise and philosophical, then you would- you-know there- three or four of you go over to ...

Speaker: Well, I- I sta-- we had- I- I- I did my high-school here in Barry's-Bay. We had a- we had, um- well the grade-school, the Roman-Catholic-Separate-School-Board, then we have ah, Catholic schools, ah, and, um, ah- up to grade-thirteen. And we had a small high-school here in Barry's-Bay, at that time, a Catholic high-school, eh?

Speaker: So it's, ah, it's a little different because, ah, they already had- had a Catholic high-school up to grade, ah, ten, I guess, and then after that they got the support, you-know, or the funding to be able to go right up to grade-thirteen, and now you don't have grade-thirteen, you, ah- ah, that's co-- discontinued, eh? Interviewer: Yeah, no, it only goes up to grade-twelve. Speaker: Grade-twelve, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So we had very few lay-teachers, right up from grade-one to, ah- to grade, ah- grade-thirteen. Ah, you, ah, were taught by the sisters, you-know?

Not, in grade-school, no, but, ah- but, ah- but even grade-thirteen, one of the- the teacher taught all the subjects. All the subjects in grade-thirteen, you-know?

From, ah- well, once after I was old enough I became an altar server at the church, and, ah, you-know, was involved in the- in the parish from- from grade- I would say maybe- maybe grade-three right up to grade-thirteen before I left, you-know? I was still- still an altar server there, you-know?

Speaker: Ah, I mean most ah- I have a nephew that he actually in grade-thirteen, he won the big prize for English. And he- ah he was in science. Interviewer: Yeah? Speaker: He w-- he- he- he won the science and the English prize, 'cause he was so good in English. But that's- that is rare. That is very rare.

Speaker: But to this day I'm amazed that these nuns were able to handle sixty students and teach these different subjects and- when I was in grade-thirteen, it was thirteen subjects. Interviewer: In one (inc) total. Speaker: In one year. Thirteen subjects. Geometry, chemistry, physics, algebra, trigonometry, thirteen, and you had to pass I think it was eleven of those before you could go onto university. Different, eh?

Interviewer: Um, you had grade-eight, or grade-nine, in Saint-Joseph's? Speaker: Ah- ah, we had grade-thirteen. Interviewer: Oh, okay, yeah, it became a full- Speaker: Yeah, yeah, in a high-school. I went to grade-eleven.