Interviewer: Huh. I may be mixed up. Speaker 03: That would be her grandparents' house. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker 03: On Scotch-Line. Interviewer: Okay. 'Cause- yeah, 'cause I remember talking about that is the- Speaker 03: Yes. Interviewer: That white house. Speaker 03: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. Oh, yeah. And, of course, when the mill was all gone down, people were stealing, or taking, let's use the word take' ah, they'd go over and take stones, or- you-know, things-like-that. Interviewer 1: Yeah. Interviewer 2: Mm-hm. Mm. Speaker: Now this is- I went over to the Scotch-Line, too. 'Cause I was always intrigued with- Interviewer 1: Yes. Speaker: The Oakes. Interviewer 1: Okay. Speaker: The Oakes family, yeah.

Speaker: W-- w-- what year did the Scotch- what- what year did the hydro go up to Scotch-Line, nineteen-forty-six? 'Cause I remember we had no hydro- Speaker 2: (inc) my dad- my dad drew the hydro out? Speaker: Yeah, forty-four? Speaker 2: That was in- in, ah, nineteen-forty-five.

Speaker 2: She w-- she had another sister. Her sister was younger than- that- Speaker: But they lived on the Scotch-Line, did they? Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and ah, and I remember you dropped, ah, the sheaf ah, of grain on her.

Interviewer: Well how far did you have to come? Speaker: Oh, up the Scotch-Line, the white house. Speaker 2: Lived out here in the white house for a bit. Interviewer: Oh okay so not too far away then.

Interviewer: I know you're living in Westport now, but if there was a visitor to Tay-Valley-Township, where would you recommend they go? What would be special places? Speaker: All the old- the old mills. I love Alan's-Mills. I love driving that little- off the Scotch, head of the Scotch line, and going down there. I love that road. Bow's-Mill's is another really neat place. I like going in by the old mills.

Speaker: I think I- I have taken people to just do that road in through Alan's-Mills. I like that. Interviewer: Yes, it's a wonderful one, yes, and- and- Speaker: And there's relatives in that cemetery, so that's over the corner of the upper Scotch line, and Alan's-Road there's a cemetery there. Interviewer: Yes. Speaker: There's some Mallorys in there.

Ah, if you lo-- look across the field I can see the window of the room where I was born so ah moved about four-hundred feet in my whole lifetime. Ah, yes the Scotch-line has been really an interesting place ah for me to live and- and ah come back. It- it- it's now getting to be a different place because of the people that ah used to be here and are gone with their different lifestyles and-so-on.

Ah, the milking machines came in ah- the hydro came up Scotch-line in forty-seven. And ah just before that we had a- a gas-powered ah vacuum pump and ah a battery ran the poll station on the machine. So ah we had that for a couple years before the hydro came up.

Interviewer: Ah, the milk that you- you got, ah where did it go? What do- what did you do with the milk? Speaker: Ah, it went to the Scotch-line cheese factory that was operational where Kewley's ah wrecking yard is.

Interviewer: Ah you had mentioned to me once before about a couple of old characters that use to come the- Speaker: Yes there wa-- as far as I can recollect most of the old farmers that lived on the Scotch-line died about- from sixty-seven to seventy. There weren't many people that reached ah over seventy.

Ah that was-it was certainly a difficult time for him- like ah back then you could buy pretty near any one of these farms up the Scotch-line for about six-thousand dollars, or six or seven. It wouldn't be much over that at any point. But you didn't get much, there was no- there was a bare boards house, ah you-know, a stove to keep it warm and that's about it.

Interviewer: You talked about Scotch-line once with me and how it is- developed and it was the corduroy road and where they put the logs and- could you describe how Scotch-line kind of started as far as you recall? Speaker: Well, as far as I recall, just from the stories and-so-on, it- it- it was not settled like you start at that end and come directly up the Scotch-line. They- the original settlers came up Grant's-Creek and they settled at the back. They'd have a little log house there and then they slowly developed the Scotch-line and ah- one farm at a time. Now as far as I can understand they ah- even the old Trevor-Mooney that settled up on the Waldock farm ah he came out here in about eighteen-sixteen, but his wife and family didn't come until 'bout eighteen-twenty-two.

Speaker: And ah I think he was- they were shovelling potash, now I don't know where potash ever came and where they were shipping it out to, but that's what he- he worked at. And ah, then the Scotch-line just ah- of course they- you-know everything was mapped out but that's as far as it had gone it wasn't ah- that was a quite an undertaking because the people that even did that weren't terribly professional then ...

And then there was a toll road down at ah- I got the map out and looked and it's just outside Pe-- it was just outside Perth, you had to pay a toll to come up the Scotch-line.

... yeah, the biggest sawmill of course it was run by water, it was Cole-Andrews' mill, up, you-know, you go up ah, straight up the Scotch-line and ah take the first side road to the right and go back in there, you-know?

Yeah, so it was around for quite a while. It actu-- it, that school was sitting across where the log house is at one time. You know where the log house is on the corner, the side road here on Scotch-line?

Interviewer: So did you use the cheese factory on Kelford's? Speaker: Yes the ah, Scotch line ah cheese factory was once bought and ah the creamer that I mentioned was on what is now Roger's road in Perth. And ah it was operated by Gaily foods during the fifties and sixties.

And before that the Glen-Tay road was closed in the winter time. It was only accessible from the north as far as what is now Miller Lane. And then it was blocked off. It wasn't snow ploughed through to the Scotch line. And it was only when a new bridge was built about nineteen-sixty-one, sixty-two, over Grant's-creek that the snow ploughs started ploughing the road all the way through.

But where I live right now was where the Upper-Scotch-Line baseball was taking place, or that's was the- called the ball diamond.