Um, what else? Well the- some of the funner ones, like I got to interview ah, ah Randy-Bachman you-know? Bachman-Turnover-Drive

She was a lady. So she just didn't. She was older and very- so the boys- and then we always had a huge gaggle of cousins that were always there. There was Jacob and Greg and Wesley and-all-these.

Interviewer: But do you remember like what her dress looked like? Speaker: Oh yeah, yeah, big controversy 'cause she wore a short skirt, like her dress was short- Interviewer: Mm. Speaker: It wasn't a long flowing- 'cause she's not a long fluffy kind of gal. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: Um- and yeah so there was big controversy about the gown, but al-- all the older generation were like, "(Gasps)-"

Speaker: I think I'm a nervous, anxious person to begin with. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: Which ah- yeah, I'm not like a go-with-the-flow kind-of gal. Um, of-course you like think about all- like those first three months, you don't know what's going on. You like- you can't see anything. Um, so the unknown and you hear about all these crazy statistic about how like everybody has like miscarriages and-stuff-like-that.

And the next year, I w-- had a sweetheart of a teacher, Miss-Sommer, and the next year, I had a little, short, very sharp little gal by the name of Miss-Frances, but she- I liked her, and then I had Miss-Sommer again, that was a break, that was a lucky break. And then in grade ah- in your third- whatever you would called senior third, it was Miss-Peters from Englehart.

Speaker: So to be able to take the treatment here is- is a wonderful thing. Interviewer: So true. Speaker: Mm-hm. And the gal who does it is- is a just a- who runs the- the unit basically is just a gem. Interviewer: Ah. What's her name? Speaker: Her name is Liane. Yeah, Liane-Boderan.

Speaker: Actually I did meet one but she wasn't really a biker. She was on the back of a bike. Interviewer: (Laughs) Speaker: She was a German gal and ah she's working at the Green (inc) and she was riding on the back of Laura-Leveille's bike.

Horses. And in retrospect, I always think, "If I were to ever do that again, I'd probably get a gelding because mares are like really finicky and moody and-stuff…

And it's- it's always been like that. And it goes- depending on what the issue is, it- everybody gnashes their teeth. (laughs)

then the government said, "By golly, we better build a railroad,"

By golly, these these things are heavy, wonder what this is,

Speaker: No, no we didn't have to do that, nope. Um, I was sort of right on the cusp too when they were changing things, so I did five years- Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: Like I did- I did the years five through grade thirteen. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: Um, although they were calling them- I think they starting to call them year five at that point-

Speaker: No they only have junior so it's grade-nine-ten split. But back then, grade-nine's played midget, grade-ten's play junior. And then eleven, twelve, thirteen 'cause it went to grade-thirteen when I was there ah played senior. So now um- so she asked me to p-- go with her so I went and I made- I made the ba-- the grade-ten basketball team which was really good.

Speaker: Yeah, we were high-school sweethearts. Interviewer 2: (inc) how'd you guys meet. Speaker: We were in the same homeroom. Interviewer 2: (Laughs). Interviewer 1: Aw. Speaker: When he was in grade-thirteen, I was in grade-twelve. Interviewer 1: Mm. Interviewer 2: Oh. Speaker: So that's- yeah, so we started going out in grade- when I was in grade-twelve and he was in grade-thirteen. Interviewer 2: Who made the move? Speaker: He did.

Interviewer: That's great. Now what happened after that, did you guys go away to school somewhere? Speaker: No. Interviewer: What did you do? Speaker: No um, I started as an apprentice in a chartered-accountant's office so I went right from grade-thirteen right into a chartered-accountant's office as an apprenticing student.

Speaker: Bachelor-of-arts or bachelor-of-math degree and all those other things before you even start. Although nowadays they do it on a modular system. Back then, it was all or nothing, you got them all or you got nothing. Same with grade-thirteen. Interviewer: Wow. Speaker: Ah we took ah nine subjects in grade-thirteen, you got them all or you got nothing. Interviewer: Wow. Speaker: That's what it was, and I got all mine and my wife got all- oh no, my wife didn't go to grade thirteen 'cause she took special commercial ...

Speaker: And then it became ah N-L- New-Liskeard-High-School, and then it was Temiskaming-District-High-School- Interviewer: Yes. Speaker: And then Temiskaming-District-Secondary-School (laughs). Interviewer: Okay (laughs). Speaker: Ah yeah, and- and I remember in grade-thirteen sitting here thinking- no this school ah ah at the time that I was here, the school was totally different.

Speaker: That I remember and I really, I loved school and-that but I just- I think by grade-thirteen, I- I was just sort-of ready for change, I wanted to sort-of fly the cage and- and I remember sitting here thinking I can't wait to get out of this two-horse town, I'll never be back and- and I all this stuff ...

the courses to offer and not because the- your- your school (inc) brothers and sisters. Speaker: No because that was- that was the education I wanted. I wasn't intere-- I wasn't interested in commercial courses or business. I was going through f-- to get my grade twelve, my diploma or grade thirteen, whichever I had- like you just took grade twelve and then if you wanted to take another year, you took grade thirteen. So that's what I had intended to do. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: And I didn't- I wasn't concerned about the business programs, the business side of it.

I wasn't interested in commercial courses or business. I was going through f-- to get my grade twelve, my diploma or grade thirteen, whichever I had- like you just took grade twelve and then if you wanted to take another year, you took grade thirteen. So that's what I had intended to do.