"Where we going to go?" And you-know, I say, "Well, let's go some place." So him and I walked off and left the guys on that side of the road. We went to the other side of the road. And we got down there and we saw two great big moose. Right in front of us.

Speaker 2: You know um, m-- my father did an interview and ah there's some stories that I don't know if he told them or not. They recorded it and now they can't find it. Speaker: They're here some place.

We camped a lot of the way out in different spots. Ah, we would stay one or two nights and then we would stay in a university dormitory- ... So that, you-know, one or two nights and then you had some place that we- you could wash and you could have a shower and you could ah wash your clothes and-all-that-kind-of-stuff. 'Cause there wasn't a lot of room to take a lot of stuff.

Because there isn't that much work. ... There's not many jobs available. ... Y-- you'd pretty well have to go some place- ... Bigger cities.

... our daughter Gina ah, when she was ha-- she ran away from home when she was fourteen and th-- ah, did some hitchhiking across Canada and that- like we didn't know where she was and we were really, as you can imagine, really upset and distraught and all the rest of it. And when she came back um, the- the-Children's-Aid eventually found her some place ah, I don't know how they found her but- anyway, when she ah came back, we took her for counselling and- and we went to the-Children's-Aid and they dug up her records and her biological mother did the very same thing as she had done.

Speaker: So you got to figure out what brake, how it broke, and how to fix it so a lot of nights I spent underneath the tractor fixing it, so I'd have it ready the next day to work 'cause we never- very seldom sent anything to- Interviewer: To be fixed. Speaker: Someplace to be- it fixed. That's why I was sort of like a mechanic. Everything (laughs) you name it. A vet, mechanic.

So I just have to worry about finding a way to ah- to grow food on the go or ah- or, you-know, like find some place to hunt or whatever, you-know, make five-hundred pounds of beef jerky (laughs). You-know, sort-of thing, you-know, nomadic living.

Yeah and then ah dad got a job working up at (inc) here. And he got a job some place working nightshift. Must have got in at another one of the other mines first.

Yeah and he did everything over there pretty well. If anything, he mixed it- mixed the stuff and (inc) sent Danny to ah the States some place on a fir-- course on this- and doing these kind of things. And he never did it. Chris still did it. Something went wrong with the machinery, he fixed it. Nothing he can't turn his hand to.

She's a great girl. 'Course she had grown up kids but they're all family and he- they got kids and he's forever running with that car some place with somebody.

Oh yeah, they were, yeah. I think we have a picture of them some place but I don't know right now where it is, I forget.

I remember a while ago, they were- I think it was inner-city Detroit, or-some-place-like-that, where they were trying to make ebonics like a language and this was that sort of inner-city way of talking.

... we'd sit and have a picnic and it's so easy to get to places like that you-know? And yet if you want to go out of town, it's not that far North-Bay or-someplace- ... So I like that type-of-thing and I remember when I was taking Carlota for tennis lessons, it was- well it was one of the Clor's.

Yeah, I'm- I'm really happy here and ah (coughs) their- I- I couldn't stand to live in Toronto. I'm like- North-Bay, I could- I could handle some place about maybe up to a hundred-thousand but after that, I get- it's too many people. It's too much, too much confusion and ah I like my flowers and my garden.

Speaker: I was out for vengeance. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: But yeah, just little squabbles like brothers or- Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: I guess brothers have 'cause that's basically what we were.

Oh yes, oh yes. Uh-huh. Well, my sister and I used to (laughs) have little- little squabbles but (laughs) she's here, she's upstairs and...

Speaker: And I got lots of help here. everybody's good to me and everybody in Liskeard's good to me. You can't say you got no enemies. I got no enemies but probably think some people because I'm in business think that I'm a- a square-head but there's nothing I can do about that. Interviewer: You've got to be a square-head in business, eh? Speaker: Yeah, but I don't think I am (laughs) a square-head you-know? I ah- Interviewer: (inc) you there- you said you were (laughs). Speaker: You-know I- I think I done the best of my ability in business to please people and the majority of them I'm sure I have. I think if you ask people they would say that.

Interviewer: Were all your siblings at home when the fire happened? Speaker: Oh, sure. Oh, sitting around there, we couldn't go outside because too damn cold. Had to sit in the house and try and blea-- breathe that stinking smoke in while- until the damn thing got- smoke got out of the house, you-know.

Interviewer: So you came back here on purpose? You wanted to? Speaker: Ah, yes. Interviewer: Yeah? Speaker: Yeah. It wasn't- (clears throat) I-mean when you- (bell rings)- after you live here ah, and you experience a few other places, you realize it's pretty stinking good here. Interviewer: Yeah? Speaker: Ah, you-know, ten minutes to the nearest golf course at half the price of the city. Interviewer: Mm. Speaker: Um, you can play hockey for next to nothing. Um, you can curl for next to nothing. Ah, people are pretty good. You can sit down with- what I r

That was the first time our family had a freezer and the box that it came in had wooden supports inside it and he put it up on a- a stoneboat which is like a little slay for taking stones off the field and built a little shed on the side of it and we decided that we were all going to sleep out in this- in this house.