And Trinity-Church certainly had lots of groups. They had the young people's group. Keith went to the young people's group for instance.

Um, my grandmother, who's now gone, um had little jobs. She was a single mother of three, actually I think one of yous interviewed my aunt Dora.

...I just pretty much watch T-V 'cause really there's nothing else going on. And I'm sure even for yous guys, like aside from, you-know, hanging out with your friends, there's nothing. Like you-know, there's no street dances or...

Speaker: Hippies never cut their hair (laughs). So, the barber didn't like it at all 'cause yous guys never went to the barber shop, eh? And that suppressed it, ah, like even in Kirkland-Lake today, I-don't-know, maybe there's traditional barber shops. There's only what? Two- two or three...

So we were just sitting, and this other guy comes. He says, "Ah, yous wouldn't have a cigarette, eh?" I says, "You know what, we just gave it to that guy." He says, "Ah, to him, he's so miserable!" And I said, "I gave him two dollars, too." "Oh," he says, "I could have used that." But he says, "That's okay. That's okay."

Speaker: We may talk again. Interviewer: Yes we may. Speaker: Um, and if yous want to use my name you can.

Speaker: How long have yous been here? Interviewer: We've been here since Monday.

Yeah, the attention span's not there. ... Like grade-six to grade-eight, I was on Ritalin but I was like a zombie when I was on that shit. ... Like totally zoned out, come home- ... Or was it I lost my appetite. I wouldn't eat.