We went to Halifax twice but first year we were billeted, second year we got a classroom to stay in as a team.

Speaker: I always remember father telling a story about- and of course a man going down Coleman-Street with a bolt of goods over his shoulder and the back end of it was on fire (laughs). But he had stolen this- this bolt of goods when, you-know, the fire- the firemen were there. He was- Interviewer: Oh he went into the building? Speaker: He went into the building, stole a bolt of goods and went down the street and it was on fire at the back (laughs). Interviewer: What bolt of goods? What fire? Speaker: (laughs) I-don't-know how he carried it 'cause they were huge bolts of- of goods that used to come in there. Um very, very large. But anyway he was carrying it.

But it was quite a place at one time and at the back of the mill there was three large stone timbers and there were great big timbers. We called them booms. And there were (inc) around there too.

...the whole bit and then- and actually on his twenty-fifth birsday- birthday he got killed at the logging-camp. Some boom-truck had a big- all we heard was a big boom-truck with a- some huge logs on it swung around...

Speaker: Yeah. Definitely. So I 'd we-- it's not like I go with my brother or-anything 'cause they go all the time so. Interviewer: Have you ever used it? Speaker: Yep. Interviewer: Where has it gotten you into? I'm curious. Speaker: I just- I've boughten like alcohol at the L-C-B-O, so, just once. Interviewer: You don't know the people at the L-C-B-O, that helps, okay. Speaker: No. But. It's worked there, that's pretty cool.

...ah in the British Navy ah ah Doctor-John-Flowers, he was a- had a thick Scottish brogue and, he wrote me a letter of recommendation because I was a little underage...

Speaker: Now what's this new sport with the idea of knocking a ball around. Is it called broomball or what?

Interviewer: I see so it was pretty well up to the person themselves to keep the thing warm? Speaker: Yeah, they supplied their own robes and so on. Buffalo hides and so on, and they also supplied their own waterproofing such as sheets of rubber and the like to shed water.

Well they boarded me in the village, and they had horses and buggies. I had a horse and buggy. In- in the wintertime of course, a horse and cutter. And ah, one of the older boys used to take it and put it in the stable and go and get it for me at night. Well then later I bought a car. After I'd been to teacher's college. And of course in the beginning I only received about six-hundred dollars a year so I couldn't afford anything but a horse.

And I- I've driven from ah- not on the- not on a stage but I've driven right from Picton. Right straight down the bay to Deseronto with an uncle he had- with a horse and buggy. Right- right straight through, the ice would be so good but that you could drive right straight through, right- never stop, right straight through from Picton, down to Deseronto.

And we had every Friday- like, we had a band concert and people drove around, came up on that, I remember it quite well, a lad from Napanee would come up in horse and buggy. And drive around with the horse and- in fact, two horses. Drive around and- we had a real winter.

Speaker: No, there wasn't much traffic. There wasn't any traffic hardly. There were no cars. Interviewer: There was horse and buggies then? Speaker: Horse and buggies, but then you were never afraid of a horse and buggy.

They used to take scrap and melt it and make steel bars for buggies or some automobile. When I came there was no electric light here of any kind. All there was was five lights on Front-Street.

Well you- we usually got to the market soon after eight o'clock. It would be about half-past seven, somewhere around there and that was in horse and buggy days, a lot of it was too. We finally got a car and we didn't have to leave quite so soon. And we crossed the ice too in the winter time with a cutter.

But it was a residential area, and that's where we lived and we used to go for a drive out to this Model-City when our children were small, we had our own horse and rig, horse and buggy that is, or horse and sleigh in the winter. We would drive out to see how they were progressing with this tunnel business you-know.

For instance my father had church services in several areas and he had to drive a horse and buggy of-course in those days. The roads anything like they are now, it was all up hill and down hill and pretty rough sometimes.

Perhaps I could collect the hard wood if I could find the man. On another occasion, I remember my father telling about having to go marry somebody north of Batise-Lake. He had to travel by horse and buggy, leave the horse at Batise-lake and take the boat across the lake, marry the couple and then come back.

He- he wo-- worked at it and then he started his own out around Madoc someplace and then went in to farming after that because just at that time they started making ah ah buggies and-that in Oshawa you-know with the General-Motors. The MacLaughlin buggies was in, see, and it- so that ruled out these little fellows. See the big factories got into it then see.

Well he was a carpenter as well as a farmer (clears throat), worked at the two. My grandfather was a carriage maker before him before us, so. Made buggies all that, factories. They used to that you-know years ago.

Yes. And there was a paint-shop. Now, of course, I'm sure if they made buggies or not, but they had a paint shop anyway (inc).