ut one time there again- one time along Danforth-Avenue at Greenwood, I was peddling along like a- there was a re-- red light, this chap opened his door and I got smacked right into it

yeah. And uh, the people who have it now, have put another story on top, and extended it, actually the chap was uh, I think he 's German, certainly Austrian if not German, he and his wife go sailing all summer, down in the Caribbean...

Speaker: Art-Hallman. And- oh, who was the chap at the Palais-Royale? Or the Palace-Pier? There were two of them. Interviewer: Oh golly, I forget. Yeah, I don 't know. Speaker: Oh yeah. He- he disappeared quite often and they figure he had a bit of a drinking problem.

But now, I think a lot of people and- especially the way, we 've got- even got the oarsmen outdone. Chap- somebody in Mar-- the Maritimes, for the World-Championships, devised the starting things. Beautiful.

How are we going to do better in the future?" I remember this chap from East-Germany got up and he said what they were doing in East- Germany. Some of their situations were wonderful. They 'd take a city like Toronto and they 'd divide it up into pies.

It 'd been a nursing-home at one time um and actually, I bought a house on Corselette and the chap that was trying to sell it was in problems because he had bought this house. And I remember, we worked a deal that he took back a third mortgage and everything, so I- I took that place.

One of them, the Goo-Foo up here- do you know, with all my knowledge of the Beach, I had to read a book that was ah based on the Beach, and this chap explained to his girlfriend how the Goo-Foo got it's name? And apparently, the night they opened up and turned on the lights, two of them were missing.

We had one chap in the Beach, I saw him walking Queen-Street, had nothing against him, doesn 't mean anything to me, but he was a conscientious-objector. We didn 't know what the hell that was at one time.

When- when we came back from overseas, there was a chap had taken over the club to the degree he had the refreshment booth, and he was now running for the first time in Toronto, teenage- records dances.

And then he could write great poems and sports things and so on. He was quite a (inc) chap.

It was a Crown grand of land in day one by a chap that owned all the property in the Beach. There was no houses here at that time and they deeded this- this so-- circle of land which is encompass of the clubhouse now and then things went up and the bowling-greens and so on.

Ah, as a matter-of-fact, a friend of mine was telling me- and I go to the synagogue every morning, and ah there 's a chap there that comes every Sunday, and we were sitting and talking to- he 's got three sons, ah that are in England. They were born and brought up in England.

It 's totally different. It 's tot-- we were talk-- isn 't that funny, we were talking about it yesterday. One of the chaps that helped David move.

Our youngest daughter married a chap whose anc-- his father is uh, Dutch and his mother was born in Mexico, but she 's part English and part Mexican. So, our grandkids are a real mixture.

Interviewer: And so your generation sounds different from my generation, but not that different, you-know? And one of- you-know, for instance what- what do you call this piece of furniture? Speaker: A chesterfield. Interviewer: Yeah? And do you call it a chesterfield? Speaker: Yeah.

Oh yes, there was a chesterfield shop on- on Yonge-Street, just above College. You-know it was the chesterfield shop and so (inc), but I do think American terms have come into our vocabulary.

Interviewer: That 's an interesting little fact. We- we study things like that, you-know, Canadianisms. What do you call this. Speaker: Sofa? Interviewer: Sofa? Not chesterfield? Speaker: Um, I guess I would have said chesterfield once upon a time. Interviewer: Apparently that 's a term only used in Canada.

Interviewer: No, I can 't remember what it 's- Speaker: Chesterfield. Interviewer: Yeah yeah, chesterfield, yeah. Speaker: Chesterfield. I grew up with all those Italian Canadian words, you-know, the (inc) you-know? The (inc), the backyarda, you-know, that 's what I grew up with, 'cause we had to always- we had to talk and it 's our way of saying (inc). My mother was like, "Fine, fine I know what you 're trying to say. It 's fine," you-know, "You 're- at least you 're talking some Italian," right?

Interviewer: Can I ask you what- just out of a curiosity, what do you call this? This- Speaker: Chesterfield. Interviewer: You call it a chesterfield as well.

...and then there was a novelist, she was writing about murder-mystery in the Victorian era of Toronto, and that 's when the discussion of chesterfield versus couch came up.