Speaker: I don't know how that happened. But anyway ah he's out there in wherever they live so- what do you call it? Thunderbay? Yeah. And ah- Interviewer: So when you were raising your children though, it must have been a happier time. Speaker: Oh yes. Yeah. Except Franky was always the one that was freelane (laughs), you-know? Yeah. Interviewer: Now c-- when you think in back in those times, can you remember any memorable events or stories that happened in the family? Speaker: No, I don't think so. Well, my grandmother, my father's mother wasn't a nice person.