But that's the only place that I can think of that it would be because the rest of that place, the rest of it is pretty well all ah houses. ... Yeah. It's always been houses.

Speaker: And one year we didn't have the air show at all. Well we- we stop with the air show, well that pretty well- Interviewer: Killed it, right? Speaker: I think so, I- I- it didn't help. And then they're charging you say, fifteen dollars and you didn't have the air show.

... the- the like the- North-Bay, the train was our big industry in North-Bay. And now it's- it's pretty well- pretty well gone. It's not ah- no longer in existence. I think we still have freight going through on one line through the C-P yards but ah- that's changed.

It just continuation from building houses I guess. It's ah, it's not too too complicated once you figure things out. ... Yeah, well, they're all pretty well built the same way. It's ah- it's not so so bad.

The same way for building a house? Well, you got your diagrams, you like- when you're- whenever you build a house you got to have your diagrams and everything now like building codes now they have it's built, so everything has to be pretty well built the same way. Like if you got to build a house now, it's all two by six construction or- your studs are always going to be sixteen inch centres.

... every year try to update the family so whenever you change an address or somebody has a baby in the family they send it to her and she updates the list and- ... So we've always pretty well had a list of ah- as all the changes but ... it's quite the chore to keep it change- going ...

so everyone was older than me in the class and so I w-- didn't have like super close friends in the class and they always used to razz me for like, my dad being the teacher and like, obviously I get good grades because my dad's the teacher, and-all-that.

... Widdifield was a separate community, I think they called them townships, and West-Ferris was a- a separate community, um, and the lines were clearly drawn. A-- um, you-know as-I-say they the separate- like the schoolboards were- were separate the- they- there was a little council you-know the- the reeve of West-Ferris, the reeve of Widdifield? You-know the way Callander has a reeve now? Um, and then the city was incorporated.

It was ah, George McGrady of North-Bay. ph-- a local photographer. And this old man- I was a kid and oh, he must have been ninety-years-old. He had this- just this rickety old shack that was a little store- a little convenient store and I remember he was always so nice to the kids.

... said "The 'coons are going to get into it". "No, no, no, that won't happen. They can't get into this, this is a special walking cooler" and blah-blah-blah. Okay, a big man, good friend of mine. Well, two-three-o'clock in the morning he hears this ruckus and he thought it was a bear. So he didn't come out of his trailer. The next morning, sure enough, cooler's upside-down, totally emptied. And he come over and woke me up and we went over and he said "See, a bear got it, bear got it!"

But what we did was, they had a big big punch bowl and they filled it with rum, rye, vodka, gin.... And the groom, he didn't have to drink the whole thing, but he had to take a big- and what they did was, they lifted him up and he never- he can't touch any of the food on the table.

... I had two beers and that's it for me, I can't drink anymore. ... I can't drink the beer I just can't do it. I'll drink rye whatever but-

A couple that are having a- a scuffle or whatever you want to call that.

So I haven't have really any- I never had a- never had a scuffle with a teacher? No.

Not here, this side of the town doesn't get them too bad. I think they are absolutely disgusting. I hate shadflies, I think they're gross. Even though they don't like even have mouths or-whatever they just like come and die. I just don't like the smell, I don't like the crunch, I don't like- (laughs) I don't like any of it

The people would have to like shovel the parking lot because it was like slush. It was like snow because there were so many shadflies. They gross me out a lot. I really don't like them.

And- and the nice thing about the shadflies is they're a sign of summer and they're a sign that the ecology is as healthy as we can hope it to be in this era and, the lakes are healthy and I-mean we're so blessed when you, you-know you look around the lakes at the beaches and the water.

Interviewer: Is there anything that you don't like about living here? Speaker: Shadflies? (laughs) But even those are tolerable. Interviewer: Right. I-- I-mean even then I mean shadflies are North-Bay identity. Speaker: Exactly. Exactly. I- I guess I'd have to, um, hm, no, no, if my husband were here he'd say "The winters", um, not that he doesn't like them but that I complain about them. I complain about the winters, the cold, the snow, the length of the winters, but come on, we live in Northern-Ontario, we get to complain about the weather, right?

Ah, I really liked it. Other than Lake-Nippising kinda sucks because of the itch that it gets and the shadfly season, so- <1> So, did the shads come from the lake?

I-guess if these snails and these shadflies and all-that, so I-guess like the small- like the small micro-organisms would be the ones that would be unique. But none of the like birds or-anything are, I don't think.