Yeah, nothing really against its-- Florida itself, I just- I wouldn't want to live in the-States, like- I would probably- actually, no, I would move to Florida for a job, but I wouldn't just move there for like, "I'm gonna-" like, "oh, it's cool, I'll live there."

Actually, because of my time in Florida, I-think because I was living in the-States so close to when I went to South-Africa, a lot of them thought I was American. A lot of them did, until they actually like, compared me to an American, like when we had Americans right- like even Americans closer-- like from Michigan, like closer to Canada.

Certain people do, but most of them, like the m-- main group of people that I- like they were just like, "Oh, you're from The-States, you're American." It was like, "Yeah, okay." (laughs) But I would always correct them and say, "No, I'm Canadian."

Interviewer: So you- you could really see the American presence. Speaker: Oh very much so. See it and hear it. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Speaker: Cause you could hear the drawl. That you could hear- hear their accent. And licence plates from everywhere in the States here.

I mean they brought a lot of money into the city. You-know they spent a lot of money here on food, on lodging, shopping. I mean people that came here from Amer-- from the States had money. They were rich enough to be able to do it. But I'm sure there were some people in North-Bay that thought they were a little- maybe a little arrogant but I didn't see that or hear that.

Interviewer: Ah. May-flies (inc). Speaker: Yeah and I've heard another name too and I can't- we were watching a T-V program- it was down in the States and I can't remember what they called it.

Speaker: I'm half-American. (laughs) Interviewer: Right, right. Speaker: My dad's originally from the-States. Interviewer: Do you have dual s-- citizenship? Speaker: No, I just haven't gone to get it. I could.

Ah, the G-Eight-Summit, in Huntsville I believe. Um, so all the representatives from France and Russia and the States and Canada will be landing at North-Bay's airport and moving from there.

Um an extended family ah is it cousins, aunts, and uncles. And the- the friends that we made, the relationships that we made at the cottage ah even from the States, like I'd ha-- I have- there's a fellow in- a retired stock-broker in- in um near Buffalo, Uncle-Sean. And he's not my uncle.

Um ah when he moved to the States, you-know, the- he didn't move to Toronto, he didn't move to Ottawa, he was moved to Vermont- he liked to ski so he left and- and we didn't see a lot of one an-- of each other.

And of course have our little parties (laughs). Little drinking obsessions. Ah, but and when- when I'm on leave, well I come home for ah couple day and then I got away, go down the States, ah visit my sister who was living there, married.

Yeah it's- it's a national thing. It's from- in the States too. Um so I did ah I did a couple fundraisers for that, I did ah two bridal shows, two years in a row at the Best-Western, that was fun.

Um, it's- it's like- even though I'm talking about the States right now, we have a different banking system, we have a slightly different public schooling system. It's pretty much the same thing. It's all based off of oppression system.

Well that was a- it was a big controversy- I mean that was the age of ah, you-know, Pierre-Trudeau. You know it was a bilingual, bicultural politics and it was- that was s-- ah separatism, you-know, F-L-Q, the works. And it had manifested itself in every part of- of Engla--, predominately English-Canda. Ah and at the time, (inc) I remember the time ah how controversial it was and I remember, you-know, like when dynamite showed up in the mail-box how frightened my mother was and-

We were getting sixty-five cents an hour, and that'd pay a streetcar to Sudbury from Copper-Cliff, and m-- room-and-board. So th-- you can see right there I didn't have much money left. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: That was the wages them days. During the w-- last of the war. Nineteen-fourty-four. And nineteen-fourty-five, yeah.

Um what else is kind of- Tim's- Timmy's is North-America- I guess it's Ontario, Timmy's. Or Canada, I guess we all say Timmy's. Ah ... what's a- I-don't-know, do you know any? (laughs) No?

Interviewer: Of all the places you applied, which job do you want the most? Speaker: Right now probably Timmies because of how close it is (laughs). ... Interviewer: That's an easy job to do. Speaker" Well, Timmies it's just right there like- ... It wouldn't take long to get there and it's nice if- even if I get tired after or-something.

When my oldest son tried out for hockey um he tried out in North-Bay and he got cut and he was a goalie so somebody from Ferris called hearing that he had got cut and wanted him to play in Ferris and at the time we kind-of said "Well, no because you'll be black-balled" (laughs) th-- yeah. Interviewer: What's that? Speaker: Well like black-balled, you'd be kind-of okay looked down upon and if they ever tried to get back into the North-Bay system they might not let you because you were kind-of a turn-coat and went to Ferris and that was a big issue back then.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah its like I think its funny, I don't know where- I don't know where it comes from. And there's just- even certain things that I'm trying to think of- like things that people in North-Bay- like one of the things is like "townies". Like if you're from North-Bay and you go to Nipissing they call you a townie. And then- but there's so many other variations of townie, 'cause there's like townie-bikes right, is like- like that's not like- isn't that like a type of like bike like it's a bike model. <1> Oh. <012> Like it's not even a company, like its like a bi-- its like a di-- like it's like a mountain bike or whatever. It's like a townie bike. And there's all these different kind-of- but yeah that's one like everyo-- and like when you go- when I was down in Toronto or Ottawa at conferences and I would say "Oh, like I'm a townie." Like they don't- like if you're from Toronto and go to school at U-of-T, like they don't call you a townie, as far as I know.

And there's just- even certain things that I'm trying to think of- like things that people in North-Bay- like one of the things is like "townies". Like if you're from North-Bay and you go to Nipissing they call you a townie.