... you-know like I'd like to work at some place like the Capital-Centre you-know or some place like- like a local non-profit you-know that- that does something for the community you-know-what-I-mean?

And to be honest I've always thought the name kind-of held the city back a little bit because I think it conjures up images in people's minds of like some place cold and isolated you-know-what-I-mean? ... Yeah in- in the minds of Canadians anyway. Because when we hear word- the words "north" we just always think of- it's like a negative word to Canadians, I-think, in a way because we think north equals cold ...

And for some reason the word "bay" together with the word "north" just makes people think of Hudson's-Bay you-know they think of James-Bay or Hudson's-Bay you-know-what-I-mean? They think of some place way up there where nobody lives where it's just like (laughs) you-know like semi-arctic or something you-know-what-I-mean like- like Canadians I think really have ah stigmatized the word "north" in a negative way I-think you-know.

Speaker: "Oh North-Bay, oh yeah." (laughs) Yeah. Interviewer: Well it doesn't feel like a really catchy name either. Speaker: No no it's- kind-of has a- you-know makes you just think of some place kind-of like- it's kind-of not happening. Some place kind-of like maybe even like depressing or something you-know-what-I-mean?

Interviewer: How are you liking ah North-Bay so far? ... Is there someplace else that you're thinking of (inc) Speaker: No, no just just someplace else like I- I- I-mean I- I think of places for practical reasons this is where I'll probably end up going but- but not um- not ah like I said not for any other reason other than it's- it's practical for- for me to be there, you-

... big bulldozers do the work. At that time you couldn't get ah- a back-hoe. That was the best way to do it was a back-hoe, but there was none around there at-that-time. Or if they were you'd have to bring them from North-Bay or-someplace, I couldn't afford that. So, a- a bulldozer'd come and he'd do the work.

Interviewer: And the ah, a--and his wife was also from ah, Hayley's? Speaker: Fro-- yeah down the Rent- Renfrew or-someplace there.

Interviewer: Um, do you find that having um so many French speakers around here ah changes the way people speak English? Do you think that influences the English at all or? Speaker: I notice sometimes mostly I go someplace and there's some F-- ah French people. They'll talk French but they can talk English too but they don't. Like I can't understand. ... I don't like that but I can't help it.

I found a pattern a number of years ago on the internet from the Canadian-Living. For a pair of what I call Apree-socks, after ski-socks? And they're all- they look to me like um well there's- there's- there's ah a country over near Russia, some place, where they have real- wear really bright clothes and-all-of-it. And anyway, they're all stripes, different stripes all the way up to about here.

... I'm sitting here with material and my (inc), and I've tracked down all my transfer patterns that I could find, and I transfered patterns onto these squares, one over there to the- I can't even remember where she was now- I think it was on Castle-Street there some place at the time was there the girls were meeting. And um we got the girls started on embroidery and all these little squares ...

Well Karen ah had decided that- she had read some place on the internet where people were making quilts to donate to I think it was Cancer-Society and they were going to be auctioned off. So she thought it would be a fantastic idea for us to do. Us as being the three of us okay. And um do you

Ah it was ah- anyway I haven't gone swimming at all- my daughter has a- a trailer out ah Bob's-Lake, which is down around West-Port some place. I can't remember exactly where it is, but it's in that area somewhere and ah I used- their- their water is gorgeous down there but I'm not going down to Ottawa.

Oh back in my childhood- did we ever get to- oh we always had disagreements with a brother ah or- you-know- yeah, yes, yes. Ah I think I- we're pretty close, our- our- our- my brothers and sisters. Ah we had the odd spat and-everything-else but it's just (inc).

Pretty well I think (coughs) for the most part yeah. I mean we had occasional flare-ups and ah certainly when we were kids we had squabbles and-so-on, but ah but I think for the most part we did.

You-know separate- showers, etcetera, but you're all doing exercises in the same place and um so, so you happen to be a little bit broader across the rear end than than some of these young squirts that come in they're you-know.

Speaker: ... to knit something, she waited until she got married and moved over to Perry-Sound, and then she'd call me on the telephone, long-distance and say "Mom, it says um-" Well how am I suppose to explain this long-distance, over telephone line. (laughs) How you suppose to do such-and-such. Why- Interviewer: Especially (inc). Speaker: Why- why did you wait until now to find out that you wanted to knit something? Why didn't you do it when you were here where I could have showed you what to do here, you-know. Um (laughs)

Well, once because, well 'cau-- I went on there with my mom and my dad and- when I was little so, just to like (inc), (sound), yeah. We had like supper on there and, (sound) I think we went with your mom too.

So it's good to support- and our waterfront is- is pretty nice you-know go down and have supper on the boat there and ah walk along the waterfront.

Speaker: Murder-mystery parties or organize events. Interviewer: W-- W-- W-- What's that? Speaker: Ah, I guess that we could say it's a game where you would have somebody hosting a supper or dinner, have some alcohol involved or some fine food, um, play roles. So it was kind-of like a role-playing-game, but in a day, um, you would find out ah who killed who, the reason why they did and ah the whole night was a guessing game.

I- a-- as a kid I mean it was so different from nowadays like we'd go out in the morning and (laughs) we'd go home for lunch, we'd go home for supper and to sleep. And that was about it, like you-know.