Yeah, they're pretty butch around here. Um, some of them are okay. We had a few nerds um, butch is common I-guess. Um, I-don't-know, the high-school kids always intimidate little kids like me, like I just- I just want to stay away from them because I thought they were all mean.

But litt-- little details, little fine tunings like that. I remem-- I remember a chap named Mark-McCramer, was working at the Cedarhurst-Farm, put an addition on. And I asked him where he wanted the load. He said, "Well, I wanted sitting here, close to the house as you can."

We was just starting out in there. And so I never said anything. I remember my wife, she was sitting on the chesterfield over by the- and the one boy on each side of her, and she's- when he started talking she was out like this waiting for the explosion.

And then broke- broke that big bone. And I can still remember when the doctor came- doctor came to the house and r-- but her on the toboggan and roared up to the house and mom put her on the- the bed- or the- the chesterfield I guess it was and um the doctor came to the house and he said oh yes, he said her leg is broken so um he gave her something to- to help her to sleep and you-know get rid of the pain and-stuff.

Oh, just these girls had just chummed together and didn't bother or didn't like anybody-

Yeah, so- ah ah he was- he didn't use to ah, he wasn't enthusiastic about hockey until I started playing peewee and bantam and then he kind of- he would chum with the other fathers and they were kind of get-- interested in it.

as I say, there was four years difference between us so he- he tended to chum with his friends and I tended to chum with mine.

I started chumming around with his sister 'cause she was one grade lower than me, but being not too far away, we met at different, I think, functions and-so-forth so I start chumming around with his sister and then that got me going with him then (laughs).

Interviewer: What's this over here? Speaker: Cistern, cistern. There used to be ah, there used to be a big fireplace a-- above that.

Yeah, got a Monday off, it was in the summer, kids weren't going to sc-- us kids weren't going to school, we took off- oh, it was a long weekend. It might have been a Civic-Holiday weekend of Labour-Day weekend, we took off Sunday morning and drove all the way up to Massey or Espanola.

Speaker: Ah Evans's and Tyres were connected. They were also from Aberdeenshire. They- they tended to stick to people of their own- if they weren't related, it was their own breed anyway. Interviewer: Yeah. Well that would make sense for the time and Scotland too because you weren't- one, I guess the- the clans and communities and two because travel you wouldn't be able to be getting other- a lot of other places. You would know the people that you were closest with.

Speaker: And then- yeah, so I took him back home afterwards and we stayed in what had been a blacksmith's shop across the road from his place where they had a huge big tartan carpet on the floor. Lot of places over there do, or did at that time. Interviewer: Was it- is c-- like his clan Tartan? Speaker: Yeah.

And um Protestants, King-William of Orange, and the Highlanders were mostly Catholic. And this- this particular ah clan of- of MacDougalls at Glencoe and McPhees, according to stories, were scribes for the MacDougalls.

Speaker: And um one of- Douglas-McLean, he's dead, was a schoolteacher, he was very active back in the sixties I guess it would've been when Dame-Fiona was the chief of Clan-McLean.

I would say the Matheson clan has lived in this area and- and farmed and worked for probably the last a-hundred-and-fifty-years.

Speaker: And the little cloakrooms where you came in. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: And in the wintertime they moved the coat hangers inside because- Interviewer: Oh, they used to be outside? Speaker: Oh, well they were in the cloakroom when you came in.

Speaker: ... and he would in those days when that Mulroney house was being heated, it was heated by coal. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: So we would go down into the coal bins and shovel coal manually into the hopper everyday. So he was always- he'd go, leave the industrial job and go over to their house and keep the furnace running that way. Oh yeah.

Speaker: ... some kids apparently were in the garage and found some matches and were playing on a- something in there, trying to light them. There was also a coal bin, because we had had a stove that took coal (laughs). Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: And um, so it- you-know, they- the gas from the lawn-mower and the coal, it didn't take much for it to- to go. And um that stove I think was taken out the year after ...

Speaker: Ah then the neighbours all- all hooked up to the hydro here and Brent-Bernard and Alex-Roman's and that- there wasn't hydro in this area 'til I was about that age. Everybody hadn't- yeah we worked with the coal oil lamp. Interviewer: Wow. Speaker: And in the barn you had a lantern. It's a wonder everybody didn't burn their barn down. But you had a coal oil lantern. That's how you would see- gave you chores at night in the dark.

Interviewer: Um, did you ever see a bear around here (laughs)? Speaker: I've never seen a bear around here, no. Interviewer: No. Speaker: No, Damon and Bes saw one. There was a little one out here a few years ago. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: But I've never seen any bears around here. Lots of groundhogs. 'Coons. Interviewer: 'Coons? Speaker: 'Coons, yeah. Lots of 'coons. Um, I've seen the odd porcupine, not very many, I've only seen two or three of those. Um, no I've never seen a bear around here at all.