Speaker: Mm-hm. Yeah. But not casting. We just went to trolling. Interviewer: What did you use for bait? Speaker: Nothing. If you troll- or d-- when we were there, which was a long time ago, you just threw a spoon in of some kind.

Interviewer: Yeah. A roofed-in area. Speaker: Porch? Veranda? Interviewer: Okay. You're happy with either word? Speaker: Yeah. Interviewer: Yeah. What happens if it's at- if it's smaller- if it's at the back door? If- Speaker: A stoop. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Yeah. Speaker: That's what I have outside door. Interviewer: Yeah. So what's the difference between a stoop and a porch or a veranda? Speaker: Well, stoop are just big enough to shake your rug on. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Ah, does it have a- Speaker: Tip the garbage can on. Interviewer: Does it have a roof? Speaker: Could or couldn't. Mine doesn't. Interviewer: It doesn't matter whether it has a roof, it's just the size then that's the discriminating point.

Some of them, they- they, ah- that was what you call- you used to call the veranda.

You-know, where I lived you could go out and sit on the veranda and, you-know, you could- you- nature was all around you, you-know

Speaker: And then I had a back room that we used for sewing room. So I had all kinds of- and I had a lovely veranda that I could go out and sit on. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: That's what I find here. I never get out anywhere, like- like, it, ah- I- at home- if I was at home I'd be able to go and sit on the veranda.

Yes, well we have a- of later years, we had a veranda here. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: This- this is a veranda here. We built it in the summer.

Interviewer: What did you call the um- this- Speaker: The veranda? Interviewer: Little open space out front. No yours is closed in.

Speaker: But th-- I use the one at the back door here, where I built that veranda.

She was washing a lot because the only thing she had was a big tub and the board, the scrubbing board and she would uh, possibly one day she would do the white clothes and uh, she would always soak them out on the back uh, there's a little veranda, just uh, on the back of the summer kitchen which led into the cellar there. There's a little veranda there and she would always have her tub and uh, one day she would do the white clothing and she would soak them for a while and then she would take the scrub board and sometimes we would help her.

Speaker: Wake them here at home. Two nights and then the funeral the next day. Sitting down there for mass and- and bury them over at the cemetery. Interviewer: What do you mean wake- wake them? Soeaker: Wake them here, an open casket, you-know? People come here, you-know, and-

He says, "We'll have- there's nothing to hinder us of taking him up to his own house, to wake from there." She says- they didn't need her fo-- for she says, "I don't want the box opened. And I know the terrible shape he'll be in."

Speaker: We heated our house with wood. Interviewer: Yes. Speaker: And cooked with wood, ah, in a cook stove, ah, first, ah, just, ah, a thinly cooked stove latterly, ah, it was, um, our- w-- the type that we called a range which had a warming closet up above and a reservoir at the back of the stove where you could heat water. Ah, ah, our washing was done- we had- first of all we did not have a cistern for catching the soft water from the roof.

Speaker: Well there was a- like a heating closet up so far, it went up probably two feet and then there is this closet that would be about uh, well the width of the stove and would be uh, I'd say a foot each way and- Interviewer: Mm-hm. What was it used for? Speaker: For, like, a warming closet, you could put- Interviewer: Yes. Speaker: And uh, see the stove pipe would ride up through that- Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: And there was a- there was a- a little door that- that you had put up and then you'd put it down or you could put it up at- the length of the thing.

Speaker: We kept it nice and clean and the- the uh, sort-of chrome legs they were shining and uh, stood above the floor, you-know? Interviewer: Mm-hm. What was the use of the back of the stove, did it have any uh, uses? Speaker: Well, just at the top of the back of the stove, we had a warming closet and um, if we wanted to keep food warm well, we would put it up there.

Speaker: Making the stoves. Yeah, the Findlay stove, eh? I-guess- Interviewer: Yes. Yours was not a Findlay, as far as you know. Speaker: I don't think so, it was a heavy stove. Then when we had the fire in thirty, we bought another stove and ah, it had the tank and everything, and- and the heating- or warming closet and everything, but it was lighter, it was more of a tin stove, you-know. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: Heavy tin. Interviewer: The original one was a heavier stove? Speaker: Oh, it was all iron, yeah.

Well, it was- had a white trim, some white on the warming closet, and trim on the tank, white enamel I guess you'd call it, and ah, then it- the rest of it was tan and black. But six lids.

And you walked out there in the wintertime, and in the summertime you wheeled out. And you wheeled out for your dinner, and back in.

Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: But what's that thing that they- they put a plank down, you-know, have you never seen that? Interviewer: No, I often made one. Speaker: What- what do you call that? Interviewer: Eh? Um, weighty- isn't that a weighty? Speaker: Yeah, that's right. Ah, just weighty, or is it a- a weighty-buckety? Interviewer: Something like that. Speaker: Yeah? Interviewer: When I'm going up you're going down. Speaker: Yeah. Ah, have you ever heard that called a sh-- a shugie (sp)? Interviewer: Eh? Speaker: A shoagie? You-know, is- is it ever- you ever heard that called a shoagie? That weighty? No, just weighty?

Interviewer: What- what's that- w-- ah, that piece of wood behind there? For the- to put the- Speaker: The whippletree, yeah. Interviewer: What i-- what is it? Speaker: Whippletree.

Speaker: Well, you backed them into the- into the- of course they have uh, traces and you have a- you have a place where you put them on the end of a- of a whippletree, a little whippletree. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: And then for a team they had uh, what they called a pole- Interviewer: Oh, yes. Speaker: And then they had two whippletrees, one one each side. They had a larger whippletree and then there's the two little ones on that and uh-