Like I 'd sit at the black steps or whatever and hangout. I never- like I s-- I came in at grade twelve, to that school, so I was- I came in at a total outsider from some place- from like Neverland basically.

... that we all go to Florida and we drove down there without any reservation- didn 't know where we were going and wound up finding some place in Pompano-Beach and then that beca-- became our summer for the next number of years

Ah they had looked at a- a house at Leslie-and-Yonge and they knew they wanted to be out of the downtown area to some place that they could afford and um when they came here I mean it was really off the beaten track so they were- ... Sort of looking ahead.

And um my- I don 't know we had like a coach and a manager. Two adults, basically volunteers, who (inc) ah it was a school team. It was like one of those organized leagues for kids. And this guy immigrated from I don 't- think Thailand or someplace like that. And he could really play soccer like no one could touch him.

Interviewer: Well, I mean, you always had your dad around then, right? Speaker: Well, he was never there because he was out playing cards some place, you-know? ... Yeah, he wasn 't around as much as most fathers were, probably. Because he- he sort-of went out at night.

And then they moved to Scarborough. Now they 've moved out to Pickering some place. But they kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, of course, right?

Yeah, yeah. Well, Jack-Long's got a house, I think, up in Forest-Hill someplace. Now his son 's sort-of taken over, eh? But his son was just a young punk when I was there, right? He used to come around and (laughs)- and his father would tell him what to do. But now he 's sort-of running the whole show, eh?

And it turned out, later on, Edwin-Alonzo- Boyd just died. He was about eighty-some-odd. He ended up coming out under an assumed name. He broke his probation, went back, and ah got out again and lived ah in Vancouver or someplace-like-that until his death.

And with my grandkids I taught them all to play euchre too. Brett and Lance and the whole works because I said, "You can always play euchre someplace. Everybody plays cards pretty well."

... she visited me. It was really nice. And she w-- I don't know where she was from, she did say and I- seems to me it was over near Bridgenorth or someplace or around, and ah she do-- she just does this for the Presbyterian-Church. And she had a prayer and I thought it was really nice of her.

Interviewer: What grade is that? Speaker: Um he's going in- yeah well he's going into ten ... So Sarah thought, "Well he better this year get into it." Because maybe next year he'll be working someplace so it's a good thing.

... Ben says, you-know he said, "It's just a miracle." Said, "It must've been an angel on his shoulder someplace." That he wasn't killed. But he had his seat-belt on too so.

It was- well in the- in the sense ah people would say "Well don't you think it's dangerous?" And I say "Once you get through Toronto to the airport you're safe." Then fly to Yellowknife or-some-place and from there it takes small aircraft in some northern lake or pond and-

... I think the first school she got was a- up north- up north of Erindale, some place and I think she got a contract for ah teaching for the year was three-hundred-and-fifty dollars. So- money was the thing. You made your own.

... my insurance policy to drive my big farm truck and my insurance agent didn't want to do it. And I said "well that's- that's fine." I said "if- if- if ah you won't insure him to drive my big truck, cancel my insurance, I'll get it some place else."

Well- take the little one in- in Fenelon there which is a small golf course- only nine holes- it's pretty- pretty small and um, it's crowded pretty well all the time. Which is good. Then you get some place like Alder's-Nest which is more challenging and the Lindsay-Golf-Course which is really challenging and there's a lot of golfer's there too.

And I also felt that, when I went on exchange, I didn't want to go ah and ah, be with Canadians. I wanted to go and be with the Scots. ... And so I felt that if I went to large city like Edinburough or some place, you don't meet people in a large city. I don't feel anyway, so I thought, "If I go to a smaller place, you become involved in other people's lives", and I certainly did, I certainly did. It was fabulous. Absolutely fabulous.

Um, and ah, we also really just want some place that's really clean. Doesn't have to be huge but- but new and clean. We saw some gross places. Gross student houses.

... I, as I tell you, spent the most of my days at home. And Charles went to work and of course if we wanted to go any places, it had to be night.

... so those two men that were carpenters sat there on the street and told these men how to do it. But you see now a days you don't- the rafters would be cut someplace else and brought here, so, but that's how we got ours.