with a little more judgment, and you-know you're able to have more of a conversation with them and yeah. Interviewer: Why were they- why did they seem so scary? Speaker: I don't know, I guess because I was a brand new teacher, and you-know they were just like big goomers. They were big and- and I- and- and see I did my- my bachelor of Ed. in primary, so I never really had any experience with you-know, older students.