The horse decided to eat the bark off the- the tree. Ah, but I thought I was the queen of the neighbourhood, riding along with this- this horse and buggy, through Parkdale.

Like, I- I don't have an aerial map or haven't studied an aerial map, but there is a divide in terms of like large lots of land which are big enough in small towns like ah, forty acres, hundred acres, two-hundred acres, measured in hectares sometimes. And, so you have all these divides and I-mean, before the petroleum boom, I'm sure the communication gap was big because of like, it would've been horse-and-buggy and walking distance...

All was all bush with just the main road." And she spent the first night ah, at this place. It was a close friend of his, who was in the taxi business. Horse and buggy in the summertime and sleighs in the wintertime.

So almost everybody and back in those days, it was all horse and buggy, there were no cars and and and the horses'll be pulling the sleighs up and down the roads all the time so we use horse droppings for puck.

Speaker 1:There's a few of the Amish people too up by Charleton now too. Interviewer: Huh, how interesting. Speaker 2: (inc) Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. With the horse and buggy. Speaker 2: Yeah there's a few horse and buggy.

Speaker: And ah, she never really recovered so they had to get rid of her. And then the next young horse they got too f-- we used to call it the buggy horse. Interviewer: Mm. Speaker: And that what they'd hook on the buggy and- and or on the sleigh on the wintertime-

Speaker: Horse and buggy I guess in October we came up. Yeah, that's how- that- that was the transportation.

Speaker: Oh course, of course. But it was horse and buggy.

Well the- running around the racetrack that's all. They pull- pull the little buggies, you-know? I wasn't terribly interested in that.

The- that type of car, but ah basically most of the freight- that's the mining company- and the farms, of course it's all horse and buggy. But I never rode in a buggy in my life. But the freight was by ah horses eh? And if you were going a distance a car, but most of it by train ah now there- there- no, you couldn't put a horse on a road you- you-know it be a hazard and-the-rest-the-stuff.

They had flowers in there right down to the lake that was all and then the Hopper-Mine- the shaft. The shaft comes down and it works on a- on- on like a- like a buggy- a carriage. It's on a cable. So they- they- they lower you down on a cable instead of you hoist with the wheels on it- with the cage, you come down on a ramp.

Speaker: They'd gone down- they used to have twenty-eight cows round about the time I was born. And ah, that was a lot of cows. And a lot of milk. Interviewer: Yeah. Mm-hm. Speaker: And ah, that's how they made their money, my mother and father was ah- the milk. And my mother used to go to town every Saturday with us in the horse and buggy.

Yeah, oh we used to pick strawberries. Raspberries too. Yep. Yeah I remember my mother taking a horse and buggy and Bo and I going out over to twenty-eight-highway to White-Edge-Corners. And there was a- bushes along the road.

Speaker: And we took her on a picnic back to the creek. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Speaker: With the horse and buggy. And d-- d-- during the day. That was one day that we had away- off from cooking. Or hoeing rather.

Oh that's- yeah, well that was- that was almost before my time. It's back- way back and it's- it was ah a parade of- the- where they had a local brass band I-guess and- and it would be buggies or-whatever, that was your float should be I-guess. I never saw one. Ah, when I got ah involved it was the legion were doing ah a parade.

Yeah, Jeff-Burns over here is the dairy man. He- he ah served this town with a hired man on a buggy. And ah- a horse and buggy with a- with a- um milk wagon. And ah, he'd- they served- served ah milk to anybody that wanted milk. And they were at the same church as us.

But anyway, he had a good driving horse and a nice buggy and he stopped m-- to take a couple of them McCout girls, pick them up and take them home that night and the dad was one- get a hold of the buggy and- and two or three of them get a hold of the back of the buggy and ah was holding it there.

Well I'll tell you- you- y-- if you're going anywhere then you had to- could use a horse and buggy and you had a pretty good driving horse. You always kept a good driving horse, something that would move.

And Stanford just pulled out the whip and he just struck the horse one and it just went l-- like that and th-- the- the buggy stayed there and...

Speaker: That was his mode of transportation. Interviewer: Holstein-steer? Speaker: W-- (inc) in a buggy.