... I feel like I got a very good, um, grounding in, if not science-journalism, at least medical- journalism, because I have things now, I have knowledge now, that I can fall back-on when- in- in the job that I 'm in right now, which is public-affairs but I 'm specifically media relations, but it 's specifically about science and technology, because I knew I had to stay in something that had to do with science or else I 'd just get bored.

... the S-C-M is the student-Christian-movement and they theoretically are both Christian but the V-C-F is a more fundamentalist group and the S-C-M is a more radical political sort-of orientated group. It still exists, it 's more interested in religion and current affairs or religion and- and people or- or dealing with you-know jobs and- and- and Christianity or whatever ...

... we 've known Jack for a long time so, anyway we- if we ever- if he ever gets to be prime-minister then we 'll know the Prime-Minister of Canada, anyway so we 're into politics and we 're into sort-of local community affairs. My husband was the president of the local resident's- association twice in the seventies and we are still involved in- actually right now the issue is the expansion of that private school down the street and they want to build in their whole open area.

And I found all the cu-- extra-curriculars self-perpetuating in that they didn 't have like the Red-Cross and- and- let 's say Habitat-for-Humanity, or anything outside of what the school needed. It was all like religious-affairs-committee and- you know spirit-committee, so it was all very internal.

I- I was the co-chair of the religious-affairs-committee in grade-nine. Um, I got trained as a peer-counsellor. Um, I don't think I actually did much peer-counselling. But I got trained and it was a very worthwhile experience.

I ah I like to ah keep up with current events. I'm an expert on politics in my own version. Ah- world affairs. But I ah, I- I like to read. I read newspapers and magazines and ah a few books.

Even when you played later on, you played organized hockey, or softball, or- or football, or- or many of the other activities, ah, that you could find in- in the community. Or the- the drama clubs, or the art clubs, or world affairs clubs, and- and many of the other things, I-mean it was, ah- it was generally student-run, or, ah, teacher-guided, or- or coach-guided. Ah, and um, as I say, you j-- you just did a lot of things by yourself.

... was on council for two years. And then- it was two-year term. And then I begged off. I didn't run again 'cause I had three kids going to university almost at the- at the same time. So I figured I better pay off the bakery and look after my affairs.

Uncle Phil went to Vancouver to manage his affairs there and ah, when uncle Pat died in nineteen-thirty-seven he had seven-hundred-thousand acres of land and (inc) cattle-

Yeah, and you didn't- and mum didn't have to worry about those- the Aladdin lamps gave you a lot of light but they had those mantles kind-of...

...out there after Tom came back, he had had just an icebox for a refrigerator and just ah ah aladdin-lamps and ah- or- and ah- and a wood stove. And ah- which would get hotter than heck and...

...ah, I should say that we- that light there is from the old place, that's the Aladdin lamp. It was a coal oil light. And- and that was one of the other ones, they...

Interviewer: So, before you had electricity what did you use for lights? Speaker: Well, coal oil lamps mostly. And we had a- I don't know there they got it, they called it an Aladdin-lamp at that time. It was a- a high, like the glass was high and it- just about that round and it had, ah- oh, I can't think of what- it had a kind of a cone shaped thing that fitted over the- the flame.

All them days, ah- young folks seemed to come here.

Whatever you did- we all- them days we all smoked, eh?

Speaker: Oh we did a lot of skipping, played a lot of tag, played with alleys. Interviewer: Played with alleys? What does it- sorry I don 't understand? Speaker: Marbles, you-know?

Speaker: Oh, well I was very sport-minded. I loved sports so all those teachers were great. Ah games? I suppose alleys was one of the biggest ones in public school. They even had city-wide competitions. Interviewer: What's that? Speaker: With alleys? Interviewer: I don't- I have no idea what that is. Speaker: Do you know what an alley is? Interviewer: I don't- Speaker: It's a little glass ball. Interviewer: Oh. Okay. Speaker: And there was a big ring with a hole in the middle and it was- who could get- throw it the closest or-whatever.

No they weren't that bad. And um in senior-fourth you were always downstairs near the principal's office, that's- and um I remember playing out in the ah yard- school-yard, we played a lot of alleys and we played a lot of hopscotch and the girls did that, I think the boys probably played ball in the summertime.

Speaker: Oh yes, yes. Hopscotch as well. And we played alleys. I can't remember what you call the game, but we all c-- went to school with alleys. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: Marbles? Interviewer: Oh yeah, yeah. Speaker: We called them alleys back then. Interviewer: Oh really?

Speaker: Marbles! We played marbles a lot. Interviewer: Really? Speaker: Yeah, you'd be gangs of people around the school at recess, hitting the marble on the wall or standing back to see who get the marble or there were alleys, really, who could get the one closest to the wall, that was something else we did.