Um, I also had a lot of British, because they came over when Kidd-Creek opened. So my next door across the way was the head of the lab at Kidd-Creek and so on and Percy-Blithely was one of the head miners and-so-on, and so I had a lot of British right around here too.

Yeah. This is Carl-Billingsley's home, at one time, and Jack-Lorde's home at another time. That's across the way.

Interviewer 1: So this is the original wood in here, is it? This- this- Speaker: Um, the- the logs, yeah. Yeah. Look it- I said those guys, I said that the- they're all hand hewed, like, with an adze. You can see with the- the big adze mark. Interviewerer 2: I can. Right from here. Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Interviewer 1: Yes. My goodness. So how old would that be? W-- how far back? Speaker: I-think in the eighteen hundreds because it was Harvey's- that's my husband- great-great-grandfather.

Interviewer 1: So this is the original wood in here, is it? This- this- Speaker: Um, the- the logs, yeah. Yeah. Look it- I said those guys, I said that the- they're all hand hewed, like, with an adze. You can see with the- the big adze mark. Interviewerer 2: I can. Right from here. Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Interviewer 1: Yes. My goodness. So how old would that be? W-- how far back? Speaker: I-think in the eighteen hundreds because it was Harvey's- that's my husband- great-great-grandfather.

Interviewer: How lovely. And he's- your here on his property. Yes, you can see the marks. Speaker: Yeah. (inc) if he used an adze or a big, wide, broad axe.

Speaker: Kind of a windlass, or a winch affair. Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a thing come down here, it was chained you-see on both sides. Rhat went out, that parted you-see, and put around your stone. The stone somebody pecked a hole in both sides of it.

You could make a buggy out of it if you wanted, but there just to- you could go to town take it just to town or-anything-like-that, in the light- light affair like you-know? Say if you were only taking ah say four or five bags of grist to town to get it ground.

Ah, it was an iron affair. Well, in fact there was a- the very first there was- was a sheet of pins roll down through a wooden- ah, wood. And, ah, made- but the- the drag harrow, it had teeth on both- that'd be six inches long.

... he would cut the hay with the old mowing machine and uh, then he would leave it until he figured it was dry enough. Then he would um, get my mother, we had what we called a rake. It took just one horse and it was a rather crude affair and it was uh- you sat on the seat, the seat uh, was more-or-less ex-- sort-of extended at the top of it and mid-air as it were and you had a big long lever here which raised or let down the- the rake-

Interviewer: How did you make toast? Speaker: Oh, a kind of a wire screening affair that you put over the- lifted the lid of the stove, and if the wood had burnt down to coals, it'd make good toast.

... the hames were attached to the- to the traces that hitched to the buggy. And then there was the back pad- but I don't know what that's called around. And then um- the tray- ah, no there was ah- another affair attached to the shafts, too. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Something that went around the horse's hindquarters?

And ah they had a- a big diving-platform, like a ten-meter diving-platform, and they had couple of diving- boards and they had two pools, olympic-size pools that were end-to-end. And um they had a- like a veranda affair along one, so you could- you could go there and watch. Becau-- and you could watch for free because the- this one guy, Don-Webb, he later on went to coach the olympic-team, eh?

Speaker: And that was pushed down and then you used a fork and put hay in the manger. Interviewer: And the oats went separately? Speaker: Yes in a- what you'd say, in a bin or in a little wooden box affair. I also cleaned out the horses.

Throw that up on the wagon and the guy on the wagon had to build the load now. And you took it into the barn and they had what they called a hay-fork. It was an iron affair that went- it was across the top was about a foot and a half and then it- two irons went down about three feet and then there was two rods went down to two little prongs that tipped up and down, and it activated them up or down with a lever ...

And they pull it up and over and that locked it. And then there was a- a hay fork rope that was fastened to a car at the- as they called it, it was a four-wheel metal affair with ah ran on a wooden- at the big barn ran on a wooden track 'bout four inches square. And it came to the middle and there was a stop-block there that tripped it and it- it tripped this pulley. And that pulley then would come down.

So they dug the holes that day, these three men, I suppose they dug ten, twelve holes or so by hand with these shovels, big deep hydro holes. And years later I saw them putting in a line where they had a big tra-- truck affair with a big drill on it, and the drill tip itself was ninety-thousand dollars cost, and they were having an awful time with this drill and they got to stuck and-so-on and I kept wondering, what happened to the old way of doing things.

Anyway ah, hydro came in forty-eight, um my dad, I consider him a very progressive guy, ah we had ah bathroom put in, um about the same time. And we didn't have- we h-- we had this cistern, we built a big cement tank affair in the basement and we ran the water off the roof into this cistern and that we used for our first bathroom, and bathtub, and laundry and-so-on.

In this tragedy of young people today, Sunday-school has taken a back seat hasn't it. We had several hundred children in Sunday-school and it was a real family affair. There are two many snow-mobiles and skiing trips in the winter and summer camps in the summer, and to be frank about it, I have come to the conclusion myself that, the family pew has come more important than the Sunday-school.

Interviewer: First of all, I guess the background of the choir, who has been in it? Speaker: Well, there again I can't, the choir is completely volunteer affair. It's getting more difficult all the time, it goes well again I shouldn't well I was there, this is a bad thing to say, we always had ten or twelve boys in the choir, very wonderfully trained and everything and enjoyable.

I think they had minstrels and they put on minstrel shows if they could find a place to put it on (laughs). ... I don't know who the conductor of those affairs would be. Ah, I just don't know, but they were good and some of them were just downright fun, you-know.