But back in that day, you-know, my mom was pregnant. Ah, and so forth, I-mean it was a tough go.

They were decent men too, you didn't have to worry about- I remember Mother making meals and sitting them at our kitchen-table. Interviewer: My goodness. So they- they weren't people to be feared. Speaker: Yeah. You didn't fear them, no. But we used to call them "tramps" at that time. "Oh there's a tramp here." Yeah, yeah. Interviewer: Not "hobos."

Another man that just retired from his own business outta (inc) his name is Alan-Hires, he worked in those early years for my father and I could go on-and-on. But these are people that we and the family are tremendously indebted to because they formed the team with our dad in those early and most difficult years.

It is used in cutting lathes, in saws, in surfacing any instrument used in road work where it comes into contact with cement, it is used now in medical operations for artificial pins is it in bones. But its uses have expanded tremendously. But going back to nineteen-twelve when it was discovered you see the war broke out a few years later and the stellite was used in the war armaments in the First World War and that ended in nineteen-eighteen.

Her- I think her third, or fourth year placement in eighty-nine. And she helped me out tremendously that year because she had finished her under-- she had finished her um third year, and can-- and had attended Centennial for two weeks doing her placement. And at that point, my mom had taken sick.

They have an excellent work ekth-- ethic. I think, you-know. They have no fear to turn their hand to something or try. Failing is not maybe an option but if you do it's not the end of the world. Life goes on. As compared to city kids, um, I don't know I- I- I just think the boys probably might be a little more confident than some.

They learned how to ride and care for them. We had the meat birds so they learned how to kill, clean and freeze that-sort-of-thing. You-know, I mean, they can turn their hand pretty much to anything they want to.

So it was like an hours- an hour walk like- twenty minute drive type-thing.

So at university and afterwards and professional career-type-things, it'd be- are- are awesome.

...but anyway, the water started to come down and right across the road there, there was a house with a veranda on it that set well just as close to the street as that to the sidewalk. And they got on the veranda railing, standing up there and a big chunk of ice came down there and hit that and smashed it down so then what did they do?

...and he would come up and see her and then he would do gown and sit with Shirley outside in the summer time in that veranda. Interviewer: The veranda isn't there anymore? Speaker: No, the front veranda that they'd sit out there on the steps there. They sat out in front there.

And like we had a big veranda and the veranda was all watered and 'course it was cold.

It was a two-room brick schoolhouse. It had a little veranda roof on the front of it.

You've probably seen them with the veranda in the front, big white veranda in the front ah- a lot of houses like that.

Yeah you never went past anybody's veranda without speaking to them type-of-thing and-

Yeah. Now I think they've reached um equalibr-- equilibrium because the last few years, last year especially it was murkier than I've seen it in a long- and think the Bay just is naturally murky. It should be kind-of a dark- that's why this Walleye fish do so well here they like dark murky water and the problem with clear water is the weeds are just- explode and- 'cause the sun hits the bottom.

And I remember when I was a wee little girl, the storekeeper, oh he liked to get us to do things for him and we carried wood out of his cellar and he gave us a bull's-eye candy.

No, it wasn't really a trademark it was just her own...but sometimes I'd sometimes you-know a butter print it's a little wee bit more than a pound into it and when you're putting a print and sell the print, you don't get paid for the extra over because it's in a print so people quit putting it in a print.

What was that called? That was right on the corner right where the great big bayside school is now. There was a little tiny wee country school and north on that road there was ah ah quarry where you could go swimming. Did you know that?

Well we got that great big building in that little wee corner and they- the money the spent on it, it's not very impressive to me. I-mean I go to the library all the time but um, no parking and there were sites that they had where there would've been tons of parking.