It couldn't have been too long before that because I don't think they burned oil, ah, but they didn't pump oil in like they do now. They put it in with pouring; they poured it in. Because that was an awfully, that, he used to put the oil in. I remember that because he'd always come down and get a cup of cup of coffee or something before he went on to deliver more oil.

Interviewer: Were there any family pets around the house? Speaker: Yes, Sally always had an Irish setter. She was always buying them , but there are awfully hard dog to raise, you had to keep them warm, and that cold house, they didn't survive.

So ah- but ah they rebuilt and they only went up the one ah- the one floor you-see because they didn't want another fire. It's awfully hard to get insurance if you have two- two ah flights of stairs.

... he wanted to go into mining engineering and the professor said, "now why are you thinking of mining engineering?" He said one of his best friends was going into mining engineering. So the professor said, "I think you better choose some other topic of engineering unless you're awfully keen because mining engineering is closed." So he went into chemical engineering ...

... I sort of lost track of him but anyway he is still in the plant where he went during the war and he must have got up pretty gar by now. The girls, my girls, married rather disastrously. She was an awfully clever girl. She got married and divorced and she was secretary to the principal of Toronto-University.

But he was sweet and hard working but as I started to tell you, this essays- book of essays after- after he taught it two years he said, "I'm getting awfully tired of that book," I said, "Lester, I think I was teaching that book the day you were born." (laughs)

And I can remember one time they went um they stepped a little out and they prescribed a novel written by a well known English writer, modern writer. And um one teacher was teaching by having her classes read you-know read the words...I don't think it's an awfully good idea reading a novel like that, out in school because most of them read so badly, don't they?

... but if a teacher looks fresh and neatly dressed it makes a lot of difference to the students. And appropriately dressed, I can recall even when mini-skirts were at their shortest, that was appropriate for a teacher to wear. But anyway, they were the fashion. But I know, this is awfully funny, things they wore back then were priceless.

... he had the Huck-Finn look, and ah I can remember um I can remember him taking the lead in the third round, but I can remember him playing just terribly awfully the last day and- and losing kinda miserably. And I can remember feeling so sorry for him.

... but as the years went on, I would see Larry in a store or something, and you-know when I was a younger mother, and we would have little chit-chats. He was an awfully nice person, but as you-know, as it is, when you're in school, you don't often think that way. But ah, I realized why he did what he did, when he did.

But we were- we had ice for- as long as I can remember we used to have an icebox out in the back kitchen and you had to have a drain that you could drain it outside somehow because the ice would melt and-

So you-know they're throwing it on for free now and anybody can buy a you-know decent camera. Now knowing how to use it is a different- and of-course there's other bells and whistles and-stuff that you-know the more pro stuff gives you but um- it's just come a long long way.

But anyway this little church, back when I was small, in public school, um would organize a trip- and this was a big-time trip back then, it was only to Oak-Lake, which is like ten miles from Belleville.

Speaker: It was on a weekend, I can't remember the day, but. That was a big-time thing to go up to Oak-Lake. Big deal, eh?

Interviewer: When we're talking about um the wharf, it looked different then than it does now. Speaker: Oh big-time. (laughs) I can remember all the oil- oil-ta-- oil-tanks.

And we had to shinny a big fence if we wanted to go over there, and we used to do it, and I got in big-time shit a lot, because we would go over there and we would climb this coal-pile, and we would slide down the coal-pile.

And it was- there was little ponds here and there, and it was a great hunting-spot for kids to- for turtles, or whatever, whatever it is you wanted to do. Hunting butterflies- Interviewer: So would you go down there with- with friends, by yourself, or just- ? Speaker: Oh yeah friends- oh yeah it was a big-time thing. I can remember getting in big-time kaka one day from my mum.

And we went- we brought 'em home, and we put 'em under there in a cardboard box, (struggling with laughter) and my mum found 'em one day and oh boy were we in big-time trouble for that. (laughing out loud)

Interviewer: Oh okay. So that was really popular? Speaker: Oh yeah, yeah. big time.

Interviewer: Well Bonnie you've got great stories and I've- and I thank you very much for sharing time. Speaker: I'd love to know what you're- what your researchers going to do with all this bilge.