I don't know why that stopped, because it was entertainment and it was fun to go to a ball game and watch local guys play and, anyway um that's gone by the board too.

Interviewer: And that would be a goodly walk. Speaker: Oh it was a goodly walk. But then, by the time we were ready to go, some of the bigger boys would have the driver's license so we would walk down 'til we hit some of them and get rides and- Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: Some of them would help, get us home.

And um I remember in grade-twelve when I discovered um, unbeknownst to me our guidance system wasn't great back then, and I discovered that I didn't have the right selection of subjects to go on to grade-thirteen, and by the time I was in grade-twelve I had this education idea had really caught on and I wanted to go to university so I wanted my grade-thirteen.

Speaker: Lanark was only a continuation school. Interviewer: Right. Speaker: They just taught to grade-twelve. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: And if you wanted to take a grade-thirteen you had to go to Perth. Interviewer: Mm-hm. Speaker: Ah to take grade-thirteen, which I never did. Interviewer: Okay. Speaker: I got married instead. Interviewer: Right out of high-school? Speaker: Family wasn't very happy, but anyway.

And of course you weren't doing that you'd take ah just a little piece of stove wood and that was your wheel of your car and you would take a little piece of chain out of the junk bin in the granary and tie that on the soles of your boot and that was your chains because you were always getting stuck, and ah, you'd drive this car around and get stuck and you'd be spinning your wheels with these chains on your feet and- and-so-on.

... but the amount of water was a four-foot head coming through a- you-know, a seven-inch by a fifteen-inch hole; it was going a lot quicker with a four-foot head than a- than a two-inch head. So therefore, ah, I think it was getting a bit gypped, you-know?

Speaker 1: Did you not take hash or- Speaker 2: Well, I took them down to Ball's. He had the grist-mill.

Absolutely, you could have put a dummy up there, and it was good 'cause they didn't know gee from haw, they couldn't tie their shoelaces.

Ah, the first chemical I ever heard tell was called Killex (sp) and it was for louse powder for cattle.

But when my dad come along it was specialized. It was strictly dairy farm. And, ah, he was on (inc). He had- always had, ah, hired men with him. You-know, working for him. And the last man that worked here was here twenty-three years. And, ah, he was a top man. One of the best, you-know?

Bury your loved ones there. The record will be there for a million years. But all this other horse-feathers, I wonder- ... What's going to happen. Again, Mister-Madison offered x-amount of feet for a very small- all he wanted was some plots. Didn't want- didn't want money, didn't need money. ... Just wanted plots.

... the only time that things would be really dandy is when it was a really cold, cold day with a bad wind. My older brothers would probably hitch up the horses and give me a ride to- to school. So that's where I got initiated on how valuable a horse blanket was.

The record will be there for a million years. But all this other horse-feathers, I wonder-

I come in at the dinner table and I just took to cry, I says, "we've lost her all this time." And she says, "You know Keith, I don't feel the damn bit sorry for you." "I- How do you mean?" "Well he said you wheeled and dealed among millionaires all your life and there's no damn reason, I'm sure if you'd get off your high horse and ask them people, there'll be some of you help you out. It's not that damn bad."

But my dad worked- he- he- and- and I don't know if you knew that, but my dad worked for Hydro, years when- before, ah, and- and when- when the br-- drew the hydro up to Scotch-Line, my dad drew that hydro line up to Scotch-Line, past where Christian-Dempsey's up is, he drew that hydro line up there with old Jace and Dolly, the match team, and we lived at ah, at Noonan's, over here, and- and ah- and ah- ...

But anyway, the big hydro poles wasn't in Maberly 'til nineteen-twenty-nine 'cause Harold-McMann often told me about ah, having a horse on the Bell telephone stretching wire. And that was in nineteen-twenty-nine these bigger poles went in.

Interviewer: (Laughs) When did you get ah indoor plumbing on the farm? Speaker: We- we didn't get hydro until nineteen-forty-eight, and I- I wan-- ah I- I can't help but mention this um, I remember the hydro guy an come down through our farm, I was heading for school one day, and they came down through the farm, three men with long handled shovels ...

So they dug the holes that day, these three men, I suppose they dug ten, twelve holes or so by hand with these shovels, big deep hydro holes.

Guillaume-Lachance actually built that first, and that's how-how they incorporated themselves into the- into the fantastic milking machines that they have today. That's where it all started. And ah, the hydro lines were just put in by more local contractors you-know and all these houses were wired by Graham-Aylmer who was Kurtis-Aylmer's father.

Glen-Tay actually had a street light before the town of Perth had hydro turned on. It was a street light at the end of the old wooden bridge apparently. ... And the hydro lines went through our farm property following the height of ground into the town of Perth. That's where the transmission lines were.