And they lived way out in the middle of the country too, so she had to, when she finished her high-schooling, she had a horse and a cutter to take her into Ottawa to go to s-- Interviewer: To Teacher's-College. Speaker: T-- t-- to Teacher's-College.

But the- the woman that owns the house on- in a cutter, and horse and cutter.

Speaker: But I come home in the horse and the cutter up Bennett's-Lake. Into the- onto the eleventh-line not far from home down below.

Saturday night we'd come to Maberly with horse-and-cutter. Four or five of us in the cutter. Be there for eight-o'clock, skate 'til nine or half past and go down to the Orange-Hall and dance 'til midnight. Get in the cutter all w-- s-- sweaty and wet.

Many a time our road wasn't ah open to- for a week even the mail driver with the horse-and-cutter were up on the embankment, that's where you were until they- took about a week to open the roads.

Speaker: Many- many weeks in the wintertime a car never was on the road at all. Interviewer: Yeah. Speaker: S-- s-- sleighs and cutters.

And later on in the depression, when I was old enough to be aware and remember these things he hired two men for a dollar a day and they would back to our place with a horse and cutter and in the wintertime, and um they worked down in the bush cutting cedar posts with a swede-saw.

And most of the time he was so tired that he'd fall asleep in about two minutes, and he said he would just get in the- the cutter and he'd fall asleep and wake up just outside the door, the horse'd take him right home.

Well Eliza-Mailer would've been a dandy, but poor Eliza's dead now too.

I went to a one-room school, I walked to school and the only time that things would be really dandy is when it was a really cold, cold day with a bad wind. My older brothers would probably hitch up the horses and give me a ride to- to school. So that's where I got initiated on how valuable a horse blanket was.

There was hardwood, there was cedar, there was everything mixed together. And, ah, for boiling maple syrup it was a- a dandy thing. And it was cheap.

And very, just going dandy and then come the labour lords, you-know to check us all out, and all the w-- "You're crazy, can't do that."

Ah, at the time they got the easement for the highway, they took that strip.

And um, I grew up with that experience ah, learning many skills that you learn on a mixed farm, so that you knew how to use a hammer, you know how to use a saw, you knew how to fall a tree, you knew how to treat livestock

Fall the tree and skid it to the landing and land it back and pile it up.

Yes, well, what happened, Ellwood, is ah, for a couple years they had a thing about farm kids that needed a driver's license like I did for to take the milk to the factory. And ah, what happened is you just needed the signature of your parents and the police chief.

We know- we- we do now have the computers and we have everything for to keep track of things but I still am concerned.

And, you-know, there was a- there was an opportunity, you-know, to expand the Upper-Scotch-Line-Cemetery that I thought was a very reasonable deal by Joe-Mathers. Very, very reasonable. But it seemed to be too much paperwork, too much this, too much that for to go along with the deal.

So anyway, I get down and there was a great big, ferris wheel or a midway r-- ah, machine running there, banging and smashing, right beside us and you know your line, and (inc) had made a thing for the- with the machinery for to have the smash-up derby.

And I can remember being so pleased if we had to stay at home or stay at school for lunch because ordinarily the teacher and us kids went ah came home for dinner at noon. Interviewer: There was adventure for you to stay. Speaker: And then we'd ah, ah at recess- well, we went out and played fox and goose and-things-like-that in the snow and ah the big thing ah, social thing was the Christmas concert and that was really- actually big.