Take a ride with the horse and buggy and uh, went to different things, different shows and so on, had a lot of fun, but it was uh, entirely different. Uh well now.

Yes, well no he gave the little- little- like a bundle buggy just walking down the street. But the one that my mother still laughs about is- I guess because the- it was- he sang as he did it, it was the rags-bone-man. Do you know what that is?

Oh yeah I had a job when I was thirteen years old I pushing shopping carts in at Canadian-Tire. "The buggy-boy" that 's what they used to call me. The buggy-boy. (laughs) I 'm serious! And ah then I went in the sports department and I was there basically seven or eight years. Part-time so right through school and stuff.

Oh yeah I had a job when I was thirteen years old I pushing shopping carts in at Canadian-Tire. "The buggy-boy" that 's what they used to call me. The buggy-boy. (laughs) I 'm serious! And ah then I went in the sports department and I was there basically seven or eight years. Part-time so right through school and stuff.

Yeah that 's true ... Yeah the whole- that whole social structure has changed now I mean we never had fences either. You-know we didn 't have fences, we just had- we played on the street everybody played on the street. We played on the road you-know we had horse-and-buggy you-know th-- they delivered ice to the houses w-- the ice on the back of the horse drawn.

Um better than most summers like I actually did something productive with my summer rather than just staying home and bumming around. Like sleeping 'til two a-m- er two p-m. Two in the afternoon everyday and just going on the computer or whatever. I ah worked pretty much the whole summer as a wading- pool lifeguard at a Woburn-Park.

They just roam. They never wanted to work. They just sort-of bummed off the locations.

I didn 't, um the friend that I went with had been there for a few more months than I had, but I just kind-of joined her um but I you-know I had saved up and didn 't want to work, I was bumming around Europe.

So you-know we just chilled-out and drank that and like the first hour I was like totally fine but like after that like I was pure buzzed like head-spins like dizziness like I wasn 't like drunk. I knew what I was doing but it 's just if you asked me to walk in a straight line I couldn 't do that so that was pretty bad.

There 'd be- probably a band because I grew up in that band (inc). There was no disc-jockeys and all that nonsense. They had big bands. So I 'm pretty sure it was- they had bands. Not canned music as I call it.

Oh I've been like- I've been- I've been with'nother time with a Vietnam vet man it's just like a you-know we're sitting playing cards man with this guy. He was like "(exhales)" serious dude man with serious stress. And I was just like "Hey man" like "take it easy" you- know? And "(grumbles)" and it was started you-know I can't really go into details'cause we're taping here you-know-what-I-mean but. You-know you're probably gonna wanna play this for your wife or-something but ah. Some serious cats man. Like those guys are like some like serious sick puppies man those boy.

Black and silver like this with an ol-- and I'd be like stopping traffic basically like satin pants and I was like one crazy looking cat. That was like six-feet-six-inches tall walking down the street.

Interviewer: Why? Are your parents really religious? Speaker: No. Like we used to just go- sometimes they 'd take us regularly but ah, we used to usually just go like on Christmas and Easter. And like, when I was- since I went to ah public-school, I had to go to Catechism-class they called it. Over at Saint-Gabriel's right behind the mall here. Yeah and it was about grade-six, we joined this new hockey-league, me and my brother. And it conflicted with Catechism-class, so out dad just said, "Oh, Okay. You guys can just play hockey. But we'll still do your studies so you can make your confirmations." But me and my brother never even made our confirmations.

Well that 's when I, when I was engaged before there. And this chap was in the Air- Force so he went overseas and- with the um, doing the patrols in the Bay-of-Biscayne out of England um, for the German subs.

...so I went and I worked there with him and there was another Humberside girl working there too. And so ah, we had quite ah, a time and um, I enjoyed that and then the war came along, and um, the chap I was going with went over and I decided I wasn 't going to do anymore ah, work in an office.

And I kind-of spoke out, and uh, there was one chap who- I didn 't know he was a Colonel, but he was a Colonel and he was sitting there, and he said "That 's no way to talk." I said "Oh," I don 't know what all I said.

Local s-- yes I went to the uh, uh the Catholic school, the separate school, it was on Woodmount just north of uh, north of Danforth, South of us. And uh, there was another chap you may be talking to is Horace-T

nd they have two children, and the daughter is married to a- our granddaughter is married to a chap who just finished law, and they bought a house in Guelph. And she 's a speech therapist.

So I went back and wrote the letter and- and uh, I had to get the okay to leave school of course, and uh, uh anyway, when I was at the uh- at work I saw the- in the file I saw the- what the other chaps have written, and I thought "Boy they 're an awful lot better than mine."

Sure. Went through uh, Waterloo, and she married a Jewish chap, uh at the end, and we tried to disuade it frankly, and he 's from Montreal, was, but uh, he 's in- he was a- majored- or not majored, he became a- got his doctorate in Philosophy, and uh, they did very well, they spent, uh, oh a couple years in uh, uh...