And my (inc) made me a little um doll cutter to- that I could push my doll in the snow and it- it was gray.

One thing I remember was ah in the winter going in- it was at night and we were going, I-guess, from our grandparents place to our aunts place and ah it was in a what they called a cutter (laughs).

I can remember when it's very cold it was below zero and the sound of the cutter on the snow was- I still remember that (laughs).

Speaker: She works for the city of London in the finance department of a set of group homes. Interviewer: Mm-hm, mm-hm. Speaker: She's dab w-- (laughs) dab at numbers. She's very good with numbers. She gets that from her father, not me.

Speaker: Yeah. So- and a lot of time you didn't have no help so you had to do what you had to do. You-know. Interviewer: So you won't- you hardly get any sleep. Speaker: No.

... Jay Burnett, who was there, told him that he could have the two horses that were left there that he looked after, that he didn't want nobody else to get a hold of. But dad didn't have no place for them.

It took a while to get used to um the city noise and the din that's always there. You don't notice it until it's not there.

They have to divvy them up and then they go in coolers and I take them.

And boy did I see the biggest moose. By then I was dogging.

nd it was a stupid thing that they- they were drinking of-course and ah they got into a little bit of a donnybrook and ah it wasn't a serious thing. He- they'd s-- saw some kids playing hockey and they jumped out of the car and the kid dropped his hockey stick and Darien picked it up and took it in the car with him and twenty yards down the road, threw it out the car and on to the road again.

Speaker: I made that decision. I stayed in res my first year. Interviewer: How was it? Speaker: Ah, it was fun (laughs)- Interviewer: (inc) Speaker: Um, I was in the double cohort so we had the grade twelves and the O-A-C's graduating at the same time- Interviewer: Yeah? Speaker: So there was twice the amount of people graduating. Interviewer: Wow- Speaker: (Laughs) So, um, that meant there were less rooms in residence.

Oh yeah, when- but even now like before we'd have I-don't-know, about s-- it was I remember it going- we have a sliding window and it'll go three-quarters up our window with the drift kind-of pushing it up and- and it was basically three-quarters of the window and this year I think it was like maybe a third of the window, it wasn't even close.

So my father worked when he was first first married, worked on the railway for, ah- I'm not sure what he di-- he was a fireman. Yeah. That's right. Because when he- because he had done that when he was overseas. That's what h-- when he was in the army he was a fireman on the trains taking munitions and-so-on in.

Speaker: Fighting, fighting for the puck. Interviewer: Oh okay. Speaker: Not necessarily the fisticuffs-type of thing, right. Interviewer: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker: I didn't do much of that but ah yeah, we played a lot of games. I was on the all-star team for a while...

Couldn't he-- I couldn't help it. I was going too fast and- for to stop it or move out of the way then.

Interviewer: So is it your job to go in the- in the- Speaker: In the maw? Fo-- for to- to trap the hay down you mean? Interviewer: Yeah. Interviewer: Yeah.

My brother helped look after the farm. We kept the farm going while he went and did that work. So that there was money for- then for to put a new kitchen on the house and to buy a vehicle.

Interviewer: And who would be the disciplinarian there? Speaker: Well there was- there was foremans, and real tough foremans, that's what they were.

And ah wrecked his leg. I guess he was able to get it repaired but it was a major repair because that was- that was just through foolishness. He wasn't listening. Then we had a- a foreman and I've had some very dangerous foremans. This foreman lost a lot of men under him. He was up at- he ah- in one case he was up at Timmins, taking down an overhead ah towers that ah- unloaded the- used to unload the trucks, they'd reached down th-- with big hoists and grabbed the load off ...

Ah well, we have dirt bikes, so we go dirt-biking, four-wheeling, fishing, just stuff-like-that.