I says, "You have a bloodsucker on you." I says, "I'm going to take it off."

And I guess the water had been up so high or-something-like-that it- it was just covered with bloodsuckers on the side and I thought, "Oh my God, my son is not going back in that water at all."

Falling in is the scariest part 'cause your canoe just like- books it down the river and you have to go get it (laughs).

Well, well, there's ah lots of stories happen like there's my brothers and my cousins so as soon as over- soon as ah workday was over, we'd go and play, and we would run logs on the booms, big booms of logs out there.

The- the lumbering moved- they started lumbering near Ottawa and they came up the river, they followed the river up, cross the big white pine trees on the edge and of-course, they had steamships to gather them into booms and take them and float them down the river to sawmills along the way and the Meteor- they, I guess, they were probably steamships on the on the lake

So you accept his love. And so they lived by his rules and received boons for it and he promised like they would be the ones to come up on top.

The taxes would go up, we were also operating because we had like thirty townships away out in the boonies that were unorganized. The school board become the official tax collector so we had to run a tax department ah which is fine...

And ah, we spent the week there watching him. Sitting up in the- in the boonies with ah most of the ah family from Alberta behind us. The Alberta team was behind us and Saskatchewan was in front of us.

Speaker: I’m mo-- I live up here at this end of town now. Well sure enough, she's right across the street from me again (laughs). Interviewer: Oh my God, wow! Speaker: I thought, "Holy shoot, what are you doing, following me? Or am I following you?" (Laughs). Interviewer: (Laughs) Speaker: Yeah, so she had boughten a house up here and it's a really, really nice community where we are. It's nice and quiet and people are great, yeah.

We had a lot of concerts and ah box socials and dances and ah they were just a joy to be with, yeah.

Put it in the house in the wintertime. And ah that was our boxcar. And they had w-- things that went into them (inc) boards that went up to the side of it and we had to get up there and get in the boxcar and this kind-of crazy stuff.

Speaker: I played basketball and a bit of volleyball and we played baseball a bit. And then ah, I played broomball for a few years but it wasn't school it was kind of extracurricular and-that-kind-of-thing. Interviewer: Could you sort-of explain the rules of broomball to me please? Speaker: Oh, well broomball was a game that was- it was like a fad I guess. It lasted about twenty-five years. And it was big when- when we were young in the seventies. And broomball was- it's like hockey. Only thing, you played it on ah- they were almost like sneaker shoes with a padding of foam and you had a broom and a ball and it was basically the same rules as hockey. Interviewer: Oh. Speaker: And it was very big. It was a very big thing here for many years. We used to have a broomball tournament that- that iced- sixty teams would take three arenas.

Speaker: And it's gone, it's- there's no more broomball, it's- it's over, it's done with.

Speaker: In elementary school, you know Jackson-Ross, me, him, and my twin Jason used to play broomball. Interviewer: broomball? What's that? Interviewer: (inc) Speaker: I-don't-know, it was like- the-- these sticks with styrofoam ends at the end. Or I-guess that makes sense.

Interviewer: So you just ride him around in your fields? Speaker: Mm-hm. Pretty much. Interviewer: That's funny, nice, did you ever fall off? Speaker: He bucked me once, like the only time. Interviewer: What? Speaker: I think he was spooked by something but other than that, no, he was a really calm horse. Like, I'd put my niece on it and she was like two at-the-time, well with me, not by herself.

Interviewer: Oh. What happened that time that he bucked you? Speaker: Oh, I'm not sure, something just spooked him though, and I just fell off. Interviewer: Did you go flying? Speaker: No, I didn't go flying, like he- he's too old to buck that vigorously.

Speaker: They looked up there and up in the bush there was broken trees, there was bullet holes. They said, "What were you shooting at?" I said, "The moose!" They said, "You must have got buck fever." I put the gun up and just started shooting like this, I di-- I wasn't aiming it. I was just so nervous. Interviewer: (Laughs) Speaker: And you-know after that I said, "Aw, this is nuts."

So he left a little baby and come home to this busy little bugger of a kid you-know (laughs)? So- and that would then go over great with Franky 'cause he wasn't used to having him around town.

Speaker: Th-- I-think less people came. Interviewer: Yeah. Interviewer 2: Yeah. Speaker: And I-think the way the holiday fell was the reason. Interviewer 2: Yeah. Interviewer: 'Cause of Canada-Day? Speaker: People were buggering off out of here Sunday, a lot of them. Interviewer 2: Mm. Speaker: Because Monday wasn't a holiday.

So almost everybody and back in those days, it was all horse and buggy, there were no cars and and and the horses'll be pulling the sleighs up and down the roads all the time so we use horse droppings for puck.